Lumpy vs. Bumpy

dlewis started the topic in Thursday, 24 Oct 2019 at 07:49 pm

Thanks for offering such a great and valuable service. I live about an hour's drive from my local surf break, so I rely heavily on the surf reports to decide whether to make the drive. Lately, there have been many reports of "lumpy" or "bumpy" surf. Which one of these is worse? Should I give the surf a miss when it's lumpy (because the peak is all over the place), but come when it's bumpy (cuz the face of the wave is just a little less glassy than usual) -- or do the two terms mean the same thing? Cheers! 

thermalben Friday, 25 Oct 2019 at 07:06 am

Great question.

Our existing surf report system - which is undergoing a revamp/upgrade - currently has the ability for surf reports to select one of the following options under "Surf quality":
https://imgur.com/4xH8wAr.png

As for the difference between "lumpy" and "bumpy", it's also worth listing them in a scale of (deteriorating) conditions.

Glassy - no wind, smooth, mirror-like conditions.
Clean - smooth conditions, unaffected by current and/or recent local wind.
Choppy - surface chop on wave face due to the recent development of onshore/sideshore wind, enough to affect wave quality, though may not affect lineup conditions.
Lumpy - wobbly conditions due to recent, sustained onshore/sideshore winds that have since abated, mainly affecting lineup conditions as wave faces can still be clean as conditions improve.
Bumpy - significant influence from short period wind waves from existing or very recent onshore/sideshore winds, affecting wave quality
Sloppy - poorly organised, wind affected, generally low period surf
Stormy - victory-at-sea conditions, gale force onshore winds (or stronger)

So based on this, 'lumpy' is better than 'bumpy' because whilst they both have similar lineup conditions, 'lumpy' conditions are associated with less local wind, and therefore the wave faces are cleaner. Let the first wave of the set go through, and the rest are usually pretty good.

Certainly quite happy to take any feedback on this list, and include any other suggestions. Though, I do want to keep the list as short as possible - too many options gets confusing. As it is, most surf reporters only use a couple of the options above anyway.

linez Friday, 25 Oct 2019 at 08:32 am

What about "coral sea" for sprout ;)

thermalben Friday, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:20 am

Well played, good sir.

I'll submit it to the World Meteorological Organisation this week, for inclusion in the next update of their glossary.

The Fire Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 10:01 pm

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mattlock Friday, 25 Oct 2019 at 08:39 pm

Can you add soft as one of the options for Dribs. It nearly always is.

Ray Shirlaw Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 10:20 am

Replace "Average" with "Just total shit"

maddogmorley Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 10:28 am

Can you also add messy but clean. Would be perfect for Victor Harbor

thermalben Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 11:39 am

Craptacular has been my go-to word for Victor for many years.

Blowin Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 11:52 am

From what I’ve seen “ Coastalwatch lineup of the day “ seems to be a term employed to describe an obvious close out which is fanned by an offshore wind .

velocityjohnno Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 04:26 pm

Heard "The surf is falling out of the sky," once on the Lancelin report. Always brings a chuckle, can you add that one in above 'Stormy' Ben?

Spuddups Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 05:31 pm

Slightly wobbly.