Home shaping a balsa blank

stunet started the topic in Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 10:38 am

About a month ago I bought a balsa blank from Riley Balsa Wood Surfboards. I scoped it on eBay, placed a bid, and picked it up the following weekend. Also managed to squeeze an interview out of him at the same time.

Here are a few shots of the blank so far:

As purchased. The blank has a recycled polystyrene core with 20mm veneer on top and 15mm veneer on the bottom, it also has a cedar stringer and tail block. Aside from the stringer the strength comes from the solid balsa rails that are made of layered balsa, each strip about 10mm wide with about ten strips in total.

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The blank cut to planshape. I got the template from Blending Curves.com (great website), it's a 7'6" gun, good for big days at the point.

First hitch in the process: it's fucken hard to cut curves into wood! Unlike soft foam you can't just slice a saw around the planshape, you've gotta hack and chop...well, I had to hack and chop. Because of this I chose not to cut directly to the outline but about half an inch to an inch off it. It meant way more sanding and planing but at least there'd be no stray hacks into the outline.

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What I've been working on: a cheap saw horse from Bunnings with $15 of pine attached to it and fashioned into a shaping stand. You'll notice the hired help hard at work sanding.

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His photography skills are on par with his sanding skills.

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After about 4 or 5 session in the shed one side of the board is now finished. Doesn't look too bad either, though you're gonna have to trust me on that as I don't have photos to prove it.

stunet Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 10:55 am new

Will upload some more photos over the weekend.

udo Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 11:10 am new

No surfboards in the roof space ............but ....do I spy some eps blanks up there ?
and a wafer in 2 pieces on the bench

stunet Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 11:14 am new

Nah Udo, that's a door. One of those folding concertina numbers. And the portable board is/was a 6'4" Channel Island that's gonna get turned into a couple of handplanes.

Took your advice and moved all my guns from the rafters to a stand under the house. 

wildenstein8 Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 12:24 pm new

"Nah Udo, that's a door."

Looks like you're shaping a door. Jokes. Good on you for shaping your own board, I've done a few myself recently but never out of wood. What tools are you using?

stunet Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 12:38 pm new

Bog standard saw for the cut to planshape, a small $20 block plane, plus sanding block and sandpaper. Also used a sanding disc fitted to an electric drill to sand the tail block and the hollow at the front of board where the rocker won't allow the block plane to grab.

That's all really.

Blowin Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 12:45 pm new

Is that the first board you've shaped Stu ?

stunet Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 12:53 pm new

Third actually. But it's the first one in a bloody long time. First balsa one, too.

Why?

trippergreenfeet Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 01:04 pm new

Having the rails attached first before the outline is sorted really makes a lot more work for sure.

Best way doing balsa laminate is to get the top and bottom skins on, then cut the outline, accounting for how much extra will be added when the rails are placed on. Then put the rails on, if ya cut the outline accurate, the rail will only need sanding to shape without having any wobbles.

If ya have wobbles in the rail, get a length of 4x2, stick sandpaper to it and run it back and forth over the rail, sorts it out real quick.

These are things I picked up from spending many an hour in Bert Burger's Sunova factory watching and lending a helping hand....always pays to pay attention to the masters.

I'm keen to see how this finishes up Stu, shaping a balsa has been high on my list of things to do for a while now. Maybe you might just give me the inspiration I need to get my arse into gear.

Blowin Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 01:11 pm new

I was just thinking it was keen of you to make your first board out of balsa. Adds another dimension of difficulty I imagine.

stunet Friday, 13 Jun 2014 at 01:27 pm new

I was gonna make one out of foam, even organised to pick up a blank at Brookvale, but then I thought about the foam dust. Don't really care about myself, I can wear a mask, but there's all sorts of kid stuff laying around the shed. I don't want a layer of carcinogenic dust settling on it. 

So I had the idea of making a balsa board, which is harder no doubt, but achievable with a few tools. I'm gonna get it glassed down at The Glass Hut at North Wollongong, which used to be Dylan Longbottom's factory but now been given a makeover.

While I was chatting to the fellas at The Glass Hut they said they had a shaping bay for hire so after this board is done I'm gonna knock out a short, flat fish from more conventional material.

@TGF, go for it. Aside from the end goal I've been enjoying the process; a few beers in a well-lit shed on a cool dark night is good for the soul. Oh yeah...

wingnut2443 Wednesday, 23 Jul 2014 at 09:55 am new

How's this project progressing Stu?

stunet Wednesday, 23 Jul 2014 at 10:03 am new

Will likely finish it this week Wingnut. I'll post photos when it's done.

groundswell Monday, 28 Jul 2014 at 11:26 pm new

Any updates?

stunet Tuesday, 29 Jul 2014 at 08:15 am new

Finished the shaping, no photos but. Next stage coming up.

indo-dreaming Tuesday, 29 Jul 2014 at 04:21 pm new

Nice, always wanted a balsa board.

There is actually balsa trees in the jungles of Mentawai's, would love to have a grown and shaped in the Mentawai's balsa board.

wingnut2443 Tuesday, 12 Aug 2014 at 09:37 am new

So, how's it progressing stu?

Photo's ... c'mon, show us some more pickies ... ;-)

stunet Wednesday, 13 Aug 2014 at 08:25 am new

Kinda ground to a halt at the moment Wingy. I took a week off recently expecting to find time to finish it but the kids took up all free time. Soon...hopefully.

wingnut2443 Thursday, 30 Oct 2014 at 04:53 pm new

How ya go Stu, u get it finished?

wingnut Wednesday, 19 Nov 2014 at 11:22 am new

The title is a bit deceiving...it's not really a "balsa"...its a compassed, veneer, composite etc...

Credit due to Mark Riley for pushing balsa...they way he sourced info on how to shape them from other shapers was deceitful...

Blowin Thursday, 1 Jan 2015 at 02:36 pm new

Updates ?

udo Wednesday, 25 Mar 2015 at 06:41 pm new

Mr Nettle ,is this board finished yet ?

bigtreeman Monday, 13 Apr 2015 at 08:33 am new

Hi Stunet, for the next woody, get a spokeshave. It's like a two handed wood plane, you drag it towards you. Just the best thing for doing curves in wood ( better than sex ;) I got 2 for about $40.
Haven't tried it yet but if really well sharpened would probably make quick work of a foam blank without the dangerous dust, just shavings.
I haven't got foam, could someone try this and tell the good folks if it works, could make the industry safer.

udo Tuesday, 8 Sep 2015 at 07:23 pm new

Mr Nettle......Outer island instagram some nice balsa guns......whats happening with yours ?

wellymon Tuesday, 8 Sep 2015 at 07:37 pm new

haha ground to a halt Udo in august 2014 apparently!
One year ago.?
The cobwebs are growing, the kids are growing and SN editorials are growing;)

Great things take time IMO

Roy Stuart Wednesday, 9 Sep 2015 at 05:37 am new

Blades have to be ultra sharp to cut balsa without tearing, abrasion is safer.

udo Wednesday, 9 Sep 2015 at 06:24 am new

Roy,what do you think of using a Barrell planer on balsa ?

Roy Stuart Wednesday, 9 Sep 2015 at 06:44 am new

I've never used one on a surfboard, I'm not fond of them so not the best person to ask. Probably with small cuts and high speed it's ok. I used to use a handsaw, a rasp and a sanding block, but the deck and bottom curves were all bent and laminated in so only needed fine tuning rather than shaping.

wingnut2443 Thursday, 23 Jun 2016 at 10:01 am new

Wet weekend and no surf, you were in the shed looking for pics of steph, but, the real question remains - did this board get finished?

udo Tuesday, 3 Apr 2018 at 07:42 am new

Updates .....shaped and glassed Yet ?
Could be some new inspiration in the Swellnet camp to finish this 4 yr project.

stunet Tuesday, 3 Apr 2018 at 09:59 am new

Ha ha...sitting in the shed, up above my old mags and books. However, I just shaped a fish and I'm gonna glass it this week. All on vid with and edit to come.

udo Friday, 28 Jun 2019 at 12:54 pm new

Wheres the fish vid ?