Swellnet Live: at Cape Solander

Ben Matson (thermalben)
Swellnet Dispatch

Comments

thermalben Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 10:01 am new

Looks like they're at Middles right now.. seen a couple of incredible drops (and some nasty beatdowns too). If anyone paddles out at Cape Solander we'll swing the camera around.

zenagain Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 10:20 am new

Cool concept.

i like the idea of setting up a cam at a name break around oz when it's firing and being able to watch the local guys get into it.

Logistically would have to be tough but great idea. Cheers.

freeride76 Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 12:27 pm new

It's a great idea unless it's your local break I'm guessing.

S'pose Solander can take care of itself but there's plenty of spots where it would be about as welcome as gonorrhoea.

zenagain Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 01:37 pm new

I said name break.

I doubt if having a camera pointed at Winki or Margs or Snapper is going to make one iota of difference to the crowd.

seaman-staines Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 01:46 pm new

Thanks for naming Snapper, if it's crowded this weekend you will hear about it!

thermalben Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 10:22 am new

It's actually been in the planning for about 6 years Zen, since we started webcasting surfing competitions. As you say, the logistics are insane but technology is slowly making things possible (albeit at great expense). Looking forward to expanding a lot more within this genre over the coming months.

tomjoad Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 10:42 am new

Agree with Zen - great idea, thanks Ben! Now if only my employer's firewall would permit the live stream...

thermalben Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 11:12 am new

We're offline for a bit.

Wind has come up from the south and a few crew have paddled in, so we'll keep an eye on it and push the start button if it turns on again.

Rabbits68 Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 12:00 pm new

Cheers Ben. Was the previous live stream recorded & can it be played back for us punters that missed it??

thermalben Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 12:11 pm new

Not available right now but I'll see if I can dig it up this evening.

Rabbits68 Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 12:20 pm new

Fantastic Ben!! Sounds like it was a great session. Cheers

thermalben Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 03:13 pm new

Should be able to see the day's vision in the player above now (no editing, straight off camera).

Rabbits68 Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 03:33 pm new

Thanks Ben!! Will check it out.

Tim Bonython Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 03:13 pm new

5/10 lads. We were hoping but that summer wind moved in by 9.50am.

DeXtrus Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 03:49 pm new

I'm sorry - but how is it ok to live broadcast from somewhere like here?!

It wasn't too many years ago that this wave was relatively "unknown" - now its getting named and live broadcast?

udo Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 03:56 pm new

deckstrus , take it up with the Bra Boys weren't they behind the world wide live streaming of the Red Bull comp .

DeXtrus Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 04:51 pm new

udo, sure i appreciate that - but that was @ "ours" a spot everyone knows and "middles" was never mentioned to my knowledge?

stunet Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 05:04 pm new

They're about 50m apart mate. You surf one or the other depending on conditions.

curly2alex Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 07:49 pm new

I'm impressed........THIS kind of thing IS progress.
Be nice to just have "set wave" times given for the playback so we can skip to em.

wellymon Friday, 30 Jan 2015 at 09:10 pm new

Geez there are some keen blokes out there.
F--k that

I'm not sure that locals at very many spots wold appreciate that tho.
Maybe a comp in the Chat-----ummmms would be cool ;
haha

stoney Saturday, 31 Jan 2015 at 06:57 am new

This is groundbreaking stuff!
I am in qld so I am hardly about to contribute to crowd!
Being able to move around and focus on take off spot, depending upon conditions makes it a real step up from the static swell cams.
Am imagining big screen TV with screen split into 10 pictures of my favourite 10 surf spots, live around Australia, or the world for that matter.
Go BEN go Swellnet!!

Blowin Saturday, 31 Jan 2015 at 08:27 am new

One area that I truly am a xenophobe in is the world of surf cams. You blokes do a Stirling job, but developments like this scare me. Whilst Swellnet display admirable discretion, some other players in this field are a lot less scrupulous.

One surf site has at least one surf cam that is a slap in the face to anyone with a modicum of reserve about the betrayal of low key spots. Fellas responsible should be limited to surfing on sunny two foot Sundays at Manly for the rest of their lives.

thermalben Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 06:42 am new

I'm interested to know what 'low key' surf spot have surfcams. We always think long and hard about the places we put surfcams, but sometimes it's difficult to please everyone - one person's secret spot is another person's crowded, well documented location. 

In fact, this topic is worthy of a seperate article, which I'll try and find some time to write about in the next week or so.

Blowin Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 09:26 am new

Without revealing the location Ben, I can say that the spot I'm referring to is far from well documented and whilst I have surfed it with a crowd of maybe a dozen and heard of more people out, it's the sort of place that would justify a much larger crowd if only people knew about it or, more specifically, when it was on.

Maybe you already know about it Ben. I never did till I went there by happy coincidence. Happy days if you do.

I can think of two reasons why the camera would be there and inadvertently displaying the spot, but the cynic in me guesses otherwise.

t-diddy Saturday, 31 Jan 2015 at 09:17 pm new

dont think there's any risk of this wave getting too crowded. No thanks boyz

BrendanBatty Sunday, 1 Feb 2015 at 07:53 pm new

It's not the same without the inane Yank commentary. I sort of miss it.

freeride76 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 08:59 am new

Gotta admit I feel deeply uneasy and queasy about this new use of technology.

Name spots. Now it's Solander. Where's next? Lennox, Angourie, Sandon, Voodoo?

I kinda thought, RedBull comp notwithstanding that Ours was sort of a wilderness spot on the edge of the city. Still kind of wild.

But no, Big Brother is watching, beaming it out to the World. The concept of entering the ocean and removing oneself from the technological Bullshit of dry land is now disappearing under the impetus of consumer voyeurism. Surfers are falling over themselves to sell the wildness and sanctity of the pursuit of surfing to the demands of the Surveillance Society.
And for what? A few moments of titillation and distraction.

It's just one more example of the Commons being exploited for Private gain.

stunet Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 09:28 am new

Little bit melodramatic if you ask me. Every time it breaks the carpark is full to overflowing, the rocks are crowded, and the filmers often outnumber surfers, never mind the noxious smell of diesel when it's big enough to tow. Calling it a wilderness spot is way off the mark.

Also, the resultant imagery from photogs is seen across all mediums within hours of being captured. The only difference being this was real time.

See Ben's explanation above about where this tech may get used.

Blowin Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 09:41 am new

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freeride76 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 12:05 pm new

Probably was Stu but you can't deny the issues are pertinent.
We are living in an increasingly surveilled society and surfing is now becoming more and more part of that matrix.
You don't feel in some part of your self a bit uneasy about these developments?

stunet Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:07 pm new

Do I feel uneasy? Not really, but then I've been privy to the discussions so I'm very aware of what won't be done for ethical reasons. I don't see it as any different to a webcast.

tonybarber Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 12:16 pm new

I suggest this is helping to head towards man made or 'adjusted' point breaks, like footy fields, etc. This live cam just highlights popularity but also we are looking for more spots to surf. Bit off topic, granted but to me the comments indicate we want live access but privacy or exclusivity.

DeXtrus Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 12:57 pm new

My feelings on this don't change - and the sentiment is echoed by a few I've spoken to.

Yes, everyone knows "Ours" but 98% of surfers don't want a bar of it so will never go out there to discover there could be other options within stones throw.

There is just NO NEED to do it - so why would you?

stunet Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:05 pm new

Look mate, you've clearly betrayed the fact you have no idea about the area so why are you going on with this? You appear to be going out of your way to get outraged. Fact is, Middles is also a very heavy wave, blow the drop and you're a good chance of getting drydocked. Joe Average doesn't want a bar of it, nor the third wave out there, Daggers, which rarely gets surfed cos it's the heaviest of the lot.

If you're not surfing the Cape, you're not surfing any of them.

freeride76 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:09 pm new

Stu, you've clearly got a handle on the local sentiment there.

Apart from Mark Matthews who makes a buck from exposure what is the feeling of the guys who surf out there recreationally?

stunet Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:12 pm new

About what? This webcast, or exposure in general?

freeride76 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:14 pm new

Well both. There seemed to be a fair bit of chagrin over the RedBull comp.

But about this setting up a camera and live webcasting recreational surfing there.

stunet Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:31 pm new

I've never heard any blowback. Most crew know each other so understand the dynamics, and dialogue happens in the carpark and in the lineup and not on the internet.

The fella manning the camera the other day is very heavily embedded in the local scene there, as is his brother, and he's got full consent to film.

The Red Bull comp could''ve been handled better but that was mostly about RB denying public access - nothing to do with webcasting. Every now and again you hear people arcing up with indiscriminate rants but they're mostly like that Deckstrus dill; never surfed the wave, never likely too, yet prepared to tell locals what they can and can't do.

50young Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:45 pm new

You surfed the Cape Stu??

stunet Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:54 pm new

Yeah 50young, I have.

50young Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 01:56 pm new

BIG Kahonas!! I say :)

Rabbits68 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:03 pm new

This sort of mobile technology is only going to get better & cheaper, there's no stopping the exposure anywhere really. If people/organizations want to pursue it, particularly if there is money to be made, directly or indirectly, they will. Some will see it as positive & some negative. It's just the way of the world. Supposed "secret" surf spots will continue to be exposed, more so as the desire to search for uncrowded surf grows exponentially.

P.S. I am not reffering to the Cape region as a "secret" surf location. I'm sure it was a long time ago....

DeXtrus Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:07 pm new

Hi Stu, yes...I have surfed out Middles a number of times over a period of years. Increasingly its become more crowded. But no, I wouldn't surf "Ours" and unless someone removes the pinnacle of rock that sticks up out of the water half way through the wave at Daggers then I won't be going out there in a hurry either (and probably not anyway). So clearly you're wrong on this...

I am not going out of my way to be "outraged" - you're really putting words in my mouth mate.

I am quite simply saying I'm surprised we're now blatantly naming and broadcasting from a wave that was considered a semi-secret spot not all that long ago - and the benefit of why we would do that...

freeride76 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:12 pm new

Rabbits68 it'll really be up to local communities to make a stand if they want to preserve sanctity/privacy of spots. Not in the sense of trying to keep them off limits to other people but in the sense of maintaining them as public spaces and away from commercial activities.
I've seen local communities band together and achieve that.

Rabbits68 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:17 pm new

Yeah true to a degree FR. I'm all for people power & didn't mean to come across negative, but the reality being where there's a dollar to be made it often takes priority over sentiment, which is wrong IMO.

Blowin Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:32 pm new

Rabbits, don't apologise for any perceived negativity on your behalf. That's like apologising to a developer for not approving of their attempts to build a resort on pristine bush land. The onus is on the one making the radical changes to the status quo to provide reasoning as to why it should be so and to attempt to accommodate those people affected by the changes made out of their self interest.

Doesn't make you a hater to resist changes that are detrimental to yourself.

Not referring to the Swellnet team.

DeXtrus Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:17 pm new

Oh and for the "deckstrus dill" comment - screw you hero.

Rabbits68 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:20 pm new

Hey Stu, have you left any room for some humble pie? :-)

stunet Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 02:45 pm new

Because I assumed he'd never been out there? Bit rash, maybe, but I've just had lunch, so thanks anyway.

Rabbits68 Monday, 2 Feb 2015 at 03:41 pm new

Yeah because everything you said about Dexta that if it is to be believed (& no reason to not be believed) turned out be clearly wrong. That's all.......

If your going to dish it out Stu, always best to take it as well :-)

urallfullacrap Tuesday, 3 Feb 2015 at 05:17 pm new

sorry stand up boys but I think the lids have won on wave count got to lift your game