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Was never arguing that the Covid vax didn't come with a risk of myocarditis.
However -
"We know that the benefits of the vaccine strongly outweigh the risks,” Dr. Johnson says. “I strongly recommend — and the CDC recommends — that everyone who is eligible get vaccinated and get their booster shots.”
Also, I'm open to being corrected, but doesn't 1,626 cases of myocarditis among more than 354 million primary doses equate to 0.00046 % ?
Actually you do blame the vax on everything. You have never acknowledged covid can be worse than the vax.
Yes, the vax can cause myocarditis in some cases however the cases are such small % it is worth the risk as covid causes far more negative outcomes than the vax ever can/has.
Just in case you missed it :)
Here it is again BD..A simple civilly asked question.
Best you don’t cry and whinge others don’t answer your questions whilst avoiding and ignoring a question asked of you. In a civil manner and all.
One rule for all hey? Maybe if you're 90. But it seems myocartitis likes to hurt 30 year olds who are in no danger of covid.
It's not one size fits all. Never was, never should be.
Correct, it is exactly that number. Which is why it's interesting to note the sudden increase in cardiac activity in Europe and the UK and increased deaths in oz. I'm not just talking solely about heart conditions, the increased deaths is of major concern..although it seems i'm being painted into that corner because i mentioned 3 people i know who had heartattacks in the last 2days and questioned if it was a coincidence or not. What is causing it, and why isn't it being talked about in the MSM? The 'coincidental' heartattacks of 3 people i know in the last 2 days is just another valid reason to ask questions re the vax. I'm glad you are open to those questions. I think it's possible we are on the same page on that. Also, i've stated in previous posts about this striking particularly close to home with a family member, and that's not heart related but nonetheless devastating. But the question surely must be raised about why there's an increase on heart related incident's as mentioned above. The only study i could find on Covid contributing to heart conditions was done back before the vaccines were introduced, so there's no data to compare the two. Maybe there's more, but only so many hours in the day. Maybe Udo has a link for more studies since then.
BD, I got absolutely cooked early last year by RK, Viclocal and Co on the other thread when i said my Uncle, MIL and a friend all had strokes within 1-2 week after receiving their first jab.
Not ONE got an exemption from their doctor. None were registered in adverse reactions by their doctor.
burleigh, do you accept long covid is an actual outcome after covid?
same here @burleigh, the case hasn't been registered officially. There's gotta be a fair few like that. For what reason they aren't reported, only those individuals could say.
Also i stated last year that the reason i'm posting here is because i'm concerned people and their families are going to end up with similar life changing vaccine injuries or death, but i got ridiculed for having delusions of grandeur and thinking i was some kind of saviour. I just don't want people to have to bloody go through what my own family and many others are going through. That's the motivation, as i'm sure it's the same with you.
Has my own personal experiences clouded my judgement, or has it sharpened my focus on the subject. I'll leave that open to interpretation, as i only know what i see and hear with my own eyes.
"Every single person on this planet thinks that they are right
'Cause if you thought that you were wrong
You'd change your mind fuck from black to white"
Yep. I also know that it can happen with the flu.
I also strongly believe that some bedwetters would believe they had long covid, but they are just scared shitless from the constant barrage of media hype and government overlords that they think they are going to die and blame any side effects on covid.
But yes, I believe that some people would experience long covid, and the vaccine didn’t stop that either
Long flu is not really an issue or in any numbers compared to long covid.
I actually agree with you that long covid is probably over exaggerated by some people…it may be a convenient excuse when other underlying issues may be at fault.
I guess you have finally acknowledged something as being an outcome of having covid. That’s a small miracle.
All we need is BD to answer a simple civil question and we could have an outbreak of miracles…I think BD is too weak to acknowledge the answer…for him it is easier to ignore the question.
OMG From one of your insta links Burleigh
Didnt realise we had lost so many Children
From TGA adverse reactions website. Do your own research if you want to dispute it.
According to the TGA website dated 3rd November 2022, "There have been no deaths in children or adolescents determined to be linked to COVID-19 vaccination."
https://www.tga.gov.au/news/covid-19-vaccine-safety-reports/covid-19-va…
TGA adverse reactions website.
Anti vaxers spread the word on social media to lodge fake reactions. There is zero checking or proof required.
Come on burleigh, even you can’t be that stupid to believe 5 x under 10’s died. Or are you?
From the same site -
"The TGA closely reviews all deaths reported in the days and weeks after COVID-19 vaccination.
Read more about this process in a previous report.
Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 30 October 2022, about 63.9 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia.
The TGA has identified 14 reports where the cause of death was linked to vaccination from 943 reports received and reviewed.
As previously reported, 13 of these deaths occurred after the first dose of Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) – 8 were associated with thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) cases, 2 were linked to Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), 2 related to very rare conditions involving the nervous system, and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP).
One of the deaths occurred after a booster dose of the Spikevax vaccine and was related to myocarditis.
Details have been published in a previous report.
The 14 deaths likely to be related to vaccination occurred in people aged 21–81 years old.
There have been no deaths in children or adolescents determined to be linked to COVID-19 vaccination.
Burls, Paul - seriously, can someone tell me what's going on between that Insta post and what's actually on the TGA site?
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Its an instagram page, yes. The post is screen shots from the TGA website with no edits. You really will bury your head in the sand and try ANYTHING to discredit things wont you? Deaths, miscarriages, heart issues are just some of the adverse reactions listed on that page, but you and roadkill are happy t discredit it because its posted on instagram?
Look at the age brackets (where listed) these people are doing it not for themselves, but for ungrateful people like roadkill who thinks the world owes him something.
Actually, I discredit it because it’s BS and a complete lie. It is 100% wrong to post that 5 kids under 10 died because of a vaccine.
If you ever wanted the smallest amount of credibility you also would condemn it as BS. But you don’t.
Just went on Vacciconned's Insta page, couldn't see any screenshots - can you point me to them?
Hey mate, that insta page has nothing to do with me so not sure why you asked but as far as the TGA goes, i thought this was interesting from the British Medical Journal, an article on drug regulatory bodies. ..
"Of the six regulators, Australia had the highest proportion of budget from industry fees (96%) and in 2020-2021 approved more than nine of every 10 drug company applications."
https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1538?utm_source=miragenews&utm_med…
I'm not sure how accurate that is but if true, it would seem that when Pfizer say jump, the TGA say how high? And when Pfizer say, lets maybe not be too transparent on the jab side effects, the TGA just hold their hand out and smile. But that's terribly speculative of me. My bad.
(p.s. Thank goodness for the internet and a little resuurch.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/is… )
Road blocks and deadends, courtesy of Pfizer.
"Most regulatory agencies do not, however, undertake their own assessment of individual patient data, but rather rely on summaries prepared by the drug sponsor. The TGA, for example, says it conducts its covid-19 vaccine assessments based on “the information provided by the vaccine’s sponsor.” According to a FOI request from last May, the TGA said it had not seen the source data from the covid-19 vaccine trials. Rather, the agency evaluated the manufacturer’s “aggregate or pooled data.” The TGA does not have the individual participant level datasets pertaining to the covid-19 vaccine trials,17 which are held by the vaccine manufacturer.18
“The TGA should not be relying on the analysis of that data produced by the drug companies. Rather the TGA should be reanalysing the source data,” says Lexchin. “Further, the TGA should be holding public hearings before new drugs are approved so that it can hear from members of the public and outside scientists.”
That old doozy. No wonder no one can share the scientific data. Bloody TGA doesn't even have it! Crikey.
"I'm not sure how accurate that is but if true, it would seem that when Pfizer say jump, the TGA say how high? And when Pfizer say, lets maybe not be too transparent on the jab side effects, the TGA just hold their hand out and smile. But that's terribly speculative of me. My bad."
Mate, no doubt that the TGA could do with having more distance between them and the industry. But again, it is not feasible for there to be a conspiracy or a silencing campaign across governments, countries, universities etc. all around the world.
If you said that there was a cosy financial agreement I probably wouldn't disagree with you.
But a worldwide conspiracy hushing up the terrible, terrible side effects of the vaccine?
Now I think you're talking out your arse.
And that last link about how COVID-19 vaccines do not, and cannot, connect you to the internet kinda makes you look very tin foil hat.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-12/majestic-princess-with-800-covid…
stop me if you think that you've heard this one before
Vaguely remember a similar ship pulling up and disembarking awhile back. They assure us this time that those that test positive to a rat test , will on their own accord find suitable accommodation to isolate for 5 days. Nearly 18 months ago , an unmasked limo driver got Sydney locked down, times have definitely changed.
Bloody hell Andy surely you saw that last link was taking the piss. I thought it was funny!!
And on the topic of a world wide conspiracy. I disagree with you on that in that i think where the big money is rules and regulations can be moulded to suit their sales objectives and those rules and regulations can be filtered down through governments and advisory committees by throwing a bit of money at the key players.(which is what the above link is highlighting).... but that's another topic for another day so happy Saturday and cheers for the yarn.
There is no money in healthy people AndyM.
This poor Woman is really affected Burleigh
Actually there is. Just look at the snake oil the alternative medicine industry flogs to flogs. And the wellness industry promoting and selling off social media.
Both of which are unregulated and lie about benefits for a sale.
Why would you make fun of this Udo. You’re a dirtbag
“There is no money in healthy people AndyM.”
What conspiracy theory website did you get that off Burls?
Zzzzzzzz. Same shit from the same narcissist
Agreed.
It’s clearly in the best interests of countries to have a healthy population.
Lol
Heaps of evidence of it
Let’s start with food. Specifically hospital food.
The one place full of sick people get fed absolute shit.
You would think if governments really wanted healthy people this would change.
Smoking
Hep C.
Vaccinations
Covid vax
The National Diabetes Services Scheme (NDSS)
General free health care
There are so many ways in which it’s economically and socially desirable for the government to pre-empt health issues.
It’s demonstrably wrong to say that it’s economically preferable for a nation to have unhealthy people.
Lol
Is that it? :)
By the way Burls, health experts are calling for working from home to combat a fourth COVID wave.
Strap yourself in :)
5 year study , still a lot they are not sure about. Always was an experiment though. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/myocarditis-covid-vaccine-re…
cheers for sharing this one Supa.
Channel 9 & lib dems teaming up , comments section is going off
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-you-won-t-get-another-covid-shot-th…. “Vaccinations are beneficial and protective even for younger people but the more doses you get the less benefit you derive from them.”
Professor Allen Cheng, former ATAGI co-chair and current member
So if the science clearly shows myocarditis is because of the vaccine, would we all accept it? Should the age of vaccine direction be raised? Or should there be no vaccine direction given and the choice is 100% up to any individual?
On the radio today a Chinese official was quoted describing the importance of the ongoing severe restrictions there in pursuit of covid near zero.
His justifications: Health and Safety.
It is quite amazing how two innocuous words can become so powerful. It is very hard to argue for less health and less safety.
It is also very hard for health experts to advise actions relating to a specific health issue that might reduce health and safety even if in the broader sense they knew of unintended longer term negative health consequences of lockdowns for example.
The slippery slope to a degree of China style control long term was right there in front of us. We went more than halfway there. Some very influential people advocated for versions of it very early - see "The Great Reset by Klaus Schwab".
Fortunately, in the west, the off ramp came in part because the worship of the economy is strong at all levels and outweighed the desire for control. But it also came through disobedience as well as debate that built as facts made the narratives and mandates seem increasingly extreme.
In short, the pandemic shows very clearly that we should sometimes be thankful for dissent and debate, even if it is messy.
The ongoing debate can become tedious but most of us have never seen anything close to the extremes of the pandemic period before.
Our national debt has jumped by about $30,000 for every working age person in Australia. We pay interest on that. People raided their super - that has consequences. Mental health and other health issues have jumped due to lockdown.
Sweeping it all under the carpet is not good. Debate the issues though not so much the people.
It sure did get pretty crazy , is there a long term mental health impact study ?
I always chuckle when China talks about health and safety. I don’t think any country has a poorer h & s record or a complete disregard for it’s population.
Funny but also wow! The video says it all. Better than lots of words. Should be viewed every few months. Lest we forget.