Watch: Ain't That Swell // Crunch Time - Mackellar

Stu Nettle (stunet)
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This upcoming election may be of the vanilla variety: there are no ideological battles being fought, no big picture thinking to wrap your head around, and yet it may change the flavour of democracy in our wave-strewn land.

For the first time, Millenials are the largest voting cohort and pundits and punters alike are wondering if they'll tip the scales the way the Boomers did when they came of age. A voting majority cannot be ignored so how might that play out at the polls?

Vaughan and Jed head up Mackellar way, an electorate "that stretches from the wobbliest wave in the world at Curl Curl right up to the investment property capital of Australia, Palm Beach." Mackellar and surrounding electorates are where the independent surge first took place, with this coming election proving if it's an aberration or the new normal.

Comments

Surfalot67 Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 03:40 pm

Geez Stu, I have to disagree with "there are no ideological battles being fought". There absolutely is. Unless we want Trump-style nonsense politics to invade our country, we must make sure the LNP are kicked to the curb in two weeks.

BarbB Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 06:06 pm

Both Trump and clown before him are "nonsense" to me. Albo & the bald guy are non-sense to me. TEALs also. My impression for my personal point of view is they are all foreign globalist puppets. I recall Albo, prior to being PM, after Israel's decision, was the first to suggest 3 or 4 month boosters for a useless fake vaccine. While Israel literally erases Gaza, Albo surrounds himself with Zionists while preaching a Two State Solution, which is contrary to Israel's viewpoint. Its OK, Albo bought a $4M whatever holiday or rental or whatever house overlooking Wilko's Left at Copacabana Beach and Wong bought herself a new house also. Albo vs the other guy makes no difference.

Surfalot67 Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 08:36 pm

FFS mate, Covid was five years ago. Move on, there are bigger issues right now than the boring old lockdown sook. Also, why are we talking about Albo’s beach house not a despised ex cops $300 million dollar family fortune and tight relationship with Gina Mineheart?

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 06:00 am

covid was the biggest health disaster in human history. they created a cold in a lab and then covered it up. they then injected the population with experimental gene therapy that contains deadly pathogen (spike protein) as well as SV40 and contaminant DNA that integrates into your genome. trust me surf a lot. no one who took that poison is moving on. if elections mattered they wouldnt let us do it. there is no left or right. its an illusion. romans worked out the bread and circus 2000 yrs ago. all these crooks need to be shot or hung or they will do it again.

SquattyCutback Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 07:18 am

It's baffles me how people still don't see it rothmanisatool. It's right there in plain sight.

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 07:42 am

nah. doesnt baffle me at all. its just the asch conformity experiment and the milgram experiments. 75-80% of people will conform and will deliver deadly shocks to people if told to by authority figures. its all disturbingly cliche unfortunately. its like that line in the matrix.......most people just wanna eat the steak and pretend its all honky dory. the reality is very dark and people are generally cowards.

BBrowny Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 08:15 am

Good on you for not conforming while ticking every box from the Non-Conformists Handbook: Covid Version.

Keep using your delusion.

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 08:21 am

we are not enemies. delusion/ignorance would be bliss.

BBrowny Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 08:25 am

No we're not. Many of my friends are also dills.

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 02:31 pm

please feel free to point out anything in my above statement(s) that are not correct.

Nick Bone Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 06:41 pm

Out of curiosity, what studies/papers would you cite from?

rothmanisatool Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 06:13 am

i know most people dont want to accept this but here is the 2 yr US senate investigation into covid which confirms ecohealth alliance (CIA cutout) funding to wuhan.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes…

i would quote mostly professor angus dalgliesh, Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy and kevin mckernan regarding DNA contamination, spike toxicity and use of SV40 promoters. we also now know that pfizer lied about its use of SV40 in its vaccine as well as switching the contents between trial versions. you can watch them both here.

we now also know that ironically only astra zeneca disclosed their vaccine was gene therapy, while the other 3 manufacturers left that section blank on the TGA application.

finally these poisons still have EUA status which excludes them from liability.

they think we are cattle. some of us are not.

Confusion Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:49 am

There’s a lot of garbage that comes out of the pharmaceutical industry, not just vaccines.
It should be up to the individual if they want to avoid them .
Don’t just blame governments of both persuasions
Although different situation if you’re employer makes it mandatory.

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:23 pm

pharmas business model = push out untested drugs (usually addictive with lots of side effects(more drugs reqd)), make a metric sh*t tonne of cash and then deal with the multi billion dollar class actions later as its still a 10:1 payback ratio. rinse and repeat.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 08:16 am

You're a brave independent thinker.

Confusion Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 09:41 am

I think you’re brave if you take everything the GP tells you too .
I just had a tooth extracted, and the dentist told me to take painkillers and I just used some natural remedies, not that Panadol is that bad.
When the pharmaceutical industry comes up with a new drug/ medication, they don’t really have much idea of long term side effects and they probably don’t care that much.

Confusion Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 09:53 am

Having said that you do need to use pharmaceuticals when the tooth is being extracted or drilled out, or you would die of pain,so you have to give credit where credit is due.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 10:19 am

Dunno mate, it’s a slippery slope - one minute you’re taking painkillers, next minute you’ve got autism and pericarditis.
I wouldn’t trust ‘em.

Confusion Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 11:42 am

It helps not to generalise,
Some pharmaceuticals definitely have their place, as in surgery, and intensive pain management , where I’d definitely take them,
But EG the GP prescribed me some blood pressure medication, which I didn’t take and he checked it 3 months later and it had dropped 30 points , using different herbs, still not sure which herbs did what, because I use so many.
Also I think I’ve taken pharmaceutical
Anti inflammatories twice in my life, and found the pain was worse when the effects of the medication wore off,
But I have no long term joint issues at all .
My fitness level could be higher higher but that’s a different issue.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 12:00 pm

Rigorous scientific processes from start to finish :)

Confusion Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 12:57 pm

Actually they do do rigorous scientific research on pharmaceuticals and natural medicine,
Thats how they know about all the different
“Possible and likely adverse side effects “ of a drug , which they do actually tell you about, which you have to read about and wear them if you want.
Eg if I try a new drug and if makes my toes go all tingly or gives me a migraine
I stop taking it without scientific evidence.

stunet Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 12:49 pm

Sexxy...please mate, stop.

Sprout Friday, 25 Apr 2025 at 05:27 pm

How many replies until it's just 1 letter per line on phone browser?

AndyM Friday, 25 Apr 2025 at 05:53 pm

Great question.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 05:25 pm

Are we there yet?

Confusion Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 11:48 am

あたま

Confusion Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 11:47 am

New phone needed

AndyM Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 06:44 pm

Honky dory?
Pfft, white person’s fish.

stunet Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 06:54 pm

Ha ha...

basesix Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 07:18 pm

ha, yep, that's today'.

milney Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 11:07 am

I have a suspicion the Black Plague or the Justinian plague (6th century; possibly killed half of Europe's population) might have been a little worse.......

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 02:32 pm

we shall see. everything is a limited hangout.

Bungan33 Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 01:27 pm

Are you a professor of immunology?

BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 04:29 pm

Hi. There were many professors giving alternative views about the vaxx, including the ex-scientific head of Pfizer in the UK (Michael Yeadon); the inventor of mRNA technology (Robert Malone); as well as Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche. These people have dedicated their lives to producing vaccines. Both Malone and particularly Vanden Bossche made it clear, Biology 101, that:

1. Mass vaccination will not succeed in an already infected population. In the USA, for example, the CDC estimated around 40% of the USA populated was already infected prior to the vaxx rollout program there.

2. Viruses already in the natural incubator of the human body will create resistance to the vaxx and mutations when touched by vaccines.

3. I recall that is obviously why the virus starting as Alpha allegedly mutated into Beta in both South Africa and Brazil, the two places Astra Zeneca were conducting their vaccine trials. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7901269/

4. Then the widespread vaccination of infected populations obviously caused Delta to arise, which was highly resistant to the vaxx created from Alpha.

5. By the time a virus broke out in Australia, it was Omicron. While Australians were properly vaccinated when the population was free from the virus, the Alpha vaxx was not effective against Omicron.

6. I hope you know that every year the Flu Vaccine is altered in anticipation of the expected changes in the new annual flu virus. The same principle applied to the Covid vaxx. The vaccines created from Alpha were outdated.

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:18 pm

pretty convinced that robert malone is a limited hangout. you dont even need to know he was a CIA contractor to know there is something very off about him. the vaccine was created in 2018, the patent records show this. omicron was potentially an aerosolised vaccine (not sure yet but doesnt appear to be genetically related to the over 200 SARs-COV2 variants). the whole thing was a beta test. once you understand the point of covid was the vaxx, its all much clearer.

BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 03:26 pm

I'm not a LNP.

BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 03:30 pm

9/11 was 24 years ago however 6 months ago Al Qaeda invaded Syria again from Jordan & NATO Turkey and, at the approval of the USA, formed a government in Syria. Do you remember which entity purportedly did 9/11 and was the cause of The War On Terror? Do you think the joint USA-China Wuhan created virus (funded by they same entities that owned the vaxx tech and controlled the pandemic response) matter can't happen again?

backyard Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 04:09 pm

Well said. It's OK to call the clown before Trump - Genocide Joe. I didn't notice anything in this "debate" about universal human rights, today the leaders of the Free World (with the exception of Pope Francis) are happy to sponsor and provide cover for a Genocide. The way the world is going, fast, people might want consider that it's the Palestinians today, who's next. The Greens are the only party who recognise this, as well as environment and renters rights. I've voted Labor all my life, not anymore. What they are is Liberal Lite.

backyard Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 06:19 am

To be clear, I was responding to BarbB

rothmanisatool Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:00 am

the greens will sell out any chance they get. if voting mattered, they wouldnt let us do it. the entire system is broken/corrrupted. we need to create new parallel structures that are better. i agree on the human rights but when you have a trillion dollar war machine it must be fed bodies. they have the guns, we have the numbers as soon as people grow a pair, turn off the TV and take a good look around, things may change. until then, they will inject us like cattle, feed us garbage and beta test meme coins on us.

stunet Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:09 am

What a sad life you lead.

rothmanisatool Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:23 am

i have a great life. i just dont trust criminal corporations and govts. hard to fathom for many i guess.

ps. you sound vaccinated. <grin>

stunet Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:22 am

Yeah, all your words have gone over my head.

rothmanisatool Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:26 am

time for a booster then.

stunet Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:27 am

Time for your irony supplement.

Alex Papas Monday, 28 Apr 2025 at 09:19 am

lmfao almost spit my coffee out, stu! haha

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:13 pm

im guessing just like during covid you will force me to take it because corrupt companies and govts told you to. (milgram muppet 101). did you inject your kids too?

backyard Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:48 am

Good morning rothmanisatool, while I understand with your scepticism about anyone (I assume) of the political class, I believe that as responsible citizens we are obliged to weigh up the choices and make an informed vote. While I know the Greens cannot achieve government at this point, they can provide something towards a healthy check of power. You seem certain the Greens will sell out, I believe in making our choice, then testing it. This might be a tired statement, but some of the young mates may not be familiar with it - [I]t has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time; but there is the broad feeling in our country that the people should rule, and that public opinion expressed by all constitutional means, should shape, guide, and control the actions of Ministers who are their servants and not their masters. - Churchill, a smart, but flawed man.

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:11 pm

as i said. democracy is an illusion. in my lifetime whether left or right the rhyme remains the same. (s)elected govt stooges serve corporate interests first, themselves second and if we are lucky the people a distant 3rd. i will leave you with george carlin.....imagine how dumb the average person is, and then consider half of them are even dumber than that.

backyard Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 08:14 am

Good morning rothmanisatool, I'll leave you with something you might enjoy, 105 years ago H.L. Mencken wrote - "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." Something that can't be overlooked is that he and Carlin are both commenting on the USA. I lived there for quite some time, while they have some of the smartest people in the world they also have many practitioners of willful ignorance, and an incredibly intrenched lobbying system to government. Yes, we have lobbyist here (I never got a chance to vote no for Gina's Voice to Parliament), but it is not quite so omnipotent. Yes, Alexander Downer fucked over Timor Leste on their gas reserves, then quickly left parliament to go onto the board of Woodside. I do believe that here in Australia our form of democracy gives us a better chance at self determination. And, I must ask what form of government would you actually advocate?

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 09:27 am

enpointe backyard. a quote back at you....."Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times" – G. Michael Hopf.

it was weak men that led us here....

i would advocate some form of anarchy/govt at the local scale. we are evolved to live in communities of 150-200 people. a federal consortium could collaborate on national highways/infrastructure but govt at the local scale is far more effective and less prone to corruption/low accountability.

AndyM Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 07:13 pm

Funnily enough, I agree with you.
In my opinion, humans are better off in smaller communities that have a greater degree of self-determination.
Better off socially, better off politically.
But if you think you can achieve this, as well as addressing the existing corporatocracy, by burying your head in the sand then I strongly disagree.

BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 03:58 pm

For me, Pope Francis did little significant, which is why we won't find his mob mobilized into any significant action and many of his mob supporting Israel. The most important bottom line is an Occupying Power has no ordinary right of self-defense towards an Occupied Territory. Anyone with access to legal advisors not making this fact clear is not helping. For example, if the Aussie govt made it clear there is no ordinary right of self-defense in this situation, there would be no conflict about this issue. The ICJ has ruled this basic fact of International Law, back in 2004 in the Wall Case and again last year at this link: https://www.icj-cij.org/node/204170

My main problem with the TEALs is they strongly backed the failed Misinformation Bill. The origin of Covid and the fake vaxx appeared to be obvious misinformation. Scientifically, the vaxx was always destined to fail because (ignoring its experimental & unproven nature) mass vaccination cannot be achieved when much of the population (in USA, Europe, etc) was already infected because this causes the virus to mutate in the bio lab of infected recipients. That is why there was Alpa, Beta, Delta, Omicron, etc. The vaxx actually probably prolonged the pandemic.. As for the continually recited "right of self defence", this also appears to be misinformation. The TEALs strongly backed a Misinformation Bill that would hinder true information and would support government misinformation. If my memory is correct, I recall the TEAL skier possibly quoting the WEF and Klaus Schwab in a speech.

This Guardian article, in my opinion, is an example of the Anglican Church leader engaged in misinformation. While the Cardinal is condemning the deliberate murder of two Christian women outside of a Gaza Church, it is still mentioned Israel has an ordinary right to self-defence, which the ICJ has ruled does not exist. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-daughter-gaz…

BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 04:05 pm

Here is an email I sent to the Greens, who originally said they would support the Misinformation Bill but then they changed their mind. I hope I helped.

Dear Senator Shoebridge 

My impression is The Greens are supporting the Misinformation Bill. You personally would be acutely aware the current Australian government appears to have mislead the Australian public on the matter of Israel & Gaza, most specifically, about the fact that under International Law, as ruled in the ICJ 2004 Wall Case (here https://press.un.org/en/2004/icj616.doc.htm and https://www.icj-cij.org…) as well as reiterated merely recently by Australia's ICJ Judge Charlesworth (here https://www.icj-cij.org/node/204170) that Israel as an Occupying Power, has either no or very limited claims to self-defence in relation to Gaza (an Occupied Territory). Related to this is Australia not fulfilling its obligations under the Genocide Convention.

In addition, a problem The Greens have is, as a party, they have not acknowledged they were incorrect about the purported danger of the Covid virus; as well as incorrect about the purported efficacy of the purported vaccines. I could provide a lot of information about this however this short video by Victoria's Chief Health Officer is sufficient to demonstrate how the experimental vaccines did not work [linked removed] . Further, I could provide lots of information about how the excess deaths in both Australia and worldwide indicated the both the lockdowns & vaccines caused many of the excess deaths. This link [i removed it from Swell Net] contains a summary.  

You would also be acutely aware it was the Covid lockdowns, which The Greens supported, which directly resulted in the approval of the Narrabri Coal Seam Gas Project, which was successfully stopped for many years; here https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/12/santos-narrabri-…;, as part of the Liberal governments Covid gas lead recovery policy here https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/17/scott-morrisons-gas…

The Misinformation Bill gives the strong impression of having the explicit purpose of stopping criticism of the government, which is undemocratic. It even prohibits criticism of the banking system (which at least overseas caused the 2008 global financial crisis). 

As demonstrated with both Israel/Gaza and the Narrabri Coal Seam Gas Project, the Greens are defeating their own purpose by supporting the Misinformation Bill. 

Also, if the government was serious about protecting children, it would ban free internet pornography. 

Regards

AndyM Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 08:29 pm

Yep, big ideological battles being fought.
We no longer have a wage economy but an asset economy, it’s about what you own not what you earn, and the divide between ‘haves’ and ‘have nots’ is getting greater.
People have identified this and are desperately trying to pressure politicians to make changes.
Both the major parties are economically right of centre although Labor might move towards the centre if the electorate supports them. With Millenials and Gen Z outnumbering Boomers for the first time, it could be possible.
Not a vanilla election in my books.

Surfalot67 Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 08:37 pm

100% agree Andy

rothmanisatool Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:01 am

not an election. both leaders were selected. they will do as they are told.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:41 am

Make sure you vote for someone else then.

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:26 pm

its cute you think i vote.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:47 pm

So you're a nihilist and a part of the problem.

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:56 pm

you mean like a big lebowski character?

no. im trying to create solutions. the only way is to create parallel systems that are better.

ive been on this journey since the non existent WMDs in Iraq, that killed a million innocent people. half of them women and children. you really think i give a rats about the bread and circus that is australian politics? its time to wake up NEO. follow the white rabbit.

basesix Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:57 pm

you'll never get there going parallel @rotool,
never ever ever ever.. dig up, stupid.
perpendicular is the new parallel.

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:59 pm

yawn. ive been zigging while the rest have been zagging my entire life.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 09:09 pm

You're a punchline.
I've seen quite a few of your type, a vain, egocentric fringe dweller who's nowhere near as bright as he tells himself.
Passable troll though :)

basesix Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 09:28 pm

wooahh... no, no, @Andy, stop.
It's Him... THE Journeyman..
come to replace the bread and circuses with dates and finger puppets..
the one born during the second Iraq conflict..
the one who came out of the womb an upright gimp,
immediately started walking sideways..
Who knew he'd reveal himself on a surf site?
We've been waiting, Oh Ziggy.
Is it.. time..?

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 10:22 pm

Haha, fucking hell!
Truly we are #blessed by Him That Scuttles Sideways Like A Crab.

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 09:30 am

your both vaccinated up the eyeballs arent you? did you inject your kids too? bravo "men".

im bored now. enjoy your oligarchy.

basesix Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 10:23 am

Love your work, @rotool. I don't mind some of Tesco's stuff, lot of decent euro overflow ends up on their labels like euro Aldi's. but all those Pinnacle, Fourth Wave manufactured wines have a stainless steel and sulphur dioxide taste and a weird blueberry accent that I find suss.. super soulless too, compared to supporting a local family owned joint..
But if I come across the Plato Oligarchy, I'll give it a go, chenin blanc's a super inoffensive slurp:
https://www.vivino.com/US/en/tesco-plato-v-oligarchy-chenin-blanc/w/879…
(looks like we both get to pop our corks tonight, @AndyM).

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 09:34 am

how many times did you wear a mask and inject yourself and your family......did you sell your soul for a trip to bali and a crappy little mortgage.........come on tell us all how bright you are........

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 09:56 am

ps. im brighter than 95% of the dingbats in this country who took experimental gene therapy for a cold made as part of weapons program. took me all of 15 mins to work that out. but you do you. i will continue to excel at trolling.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 09:05 pm

Yeah I'm with ya.
Meet you out at Wieambilla and we can compare stockpiles.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 09:14 pm

Seriously though, you're never going to fundamentally change it from the outside, it's too big.
You either try to change it from within or you can continue to cross your fingers and hope it fails, which would be a very nasty scene.

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 30 Apr 2025 at 09:31 am

it is failing. by design. hence the gold price etc. we are going to find out how tough you keyboard warriors are in our lifetime. see you on the other side.

basesix Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:53 pm

you sound vaccinated
(sorry @AM, a man's not a camel)

BarbB Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 05:03 pm

Sophie Scamps (failed) supporting censorship (failed Disinformation Bill) of the opinions of common people on social media; by doing so supported more propaganda power to the Mainstream Media; & gave the impression of unsure flip flopping about a genocide even though her husband has a law degree & she is a doctor. I guess she tried with Gaza but gave the impression of avoiding the nuts & bolts of International Law. What is this BS video? They are not "independents". They give the impression of globalists following a pre-existing international script. Don't vote TEAL. Sophie's hubbie is a home loans whatever (Avalon Mortgage Solutions). Sophie's parliament voting record is here: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Chamber_documents/HoR/Div…

AndyM Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 05:27 pm
BarbB Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 05:45 pm

I'll send by intended post to Sophie.

AndyM Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 06:02 pm

?
Why not just email her instead of sending by post?

BarbB Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 06:08 pm

.....

SquattyCutback Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 07:53 pm

Nailed it BarbB. There is a lot more to this than a witty one line response. Hopefully the millennials dig deep and get a grasp of what is really going on with the WEF and WHO etc. Only that will regain a society that provides "a roof over their heads, health and happiness and plenty of time for friends and family and the occasional ripping". You're right "foreign globalist puppets" are the real problem and the Brett Sutton video you shared confirms that. Fix that and everything local will all fall into place. Ignore it and things will continue to get worse.

I'd urge people to consider https://peoplefirstparty.au/policies

BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 04:31 pm

Good one. I voted yesterday. Gerard Rennick and his Party #1 for the Senate.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 05:17 pm

Fella appears to be anti-environment and anti-political transparency.
Pretty much all of his voting patterns show that he is a long, long way to the political right.

AndyM Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 08:18 pm

People First?
Gerard Rennick?

Pro oil, pro coal, anti anti-corruption, anti environment.

SquattyCutback Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 07:15 am

More pro nuclear or thorium, anti corruption yes (without that it's all meaningless), anti environment no but you have to be prepared to look for the truth and we're constantly lied to - that's why people keep going on about the COVID scam. When you understand that then you can never look at these people in politics the same way again.

AndyM Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 11:12 am

When I said that Gerard Rennick is anti anti-corruption, that wasn't a typo.
So maybe you're right when you say, in light of that, it's all meaningless.

SquattyCutback Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 09:50 pm

Maybe follow him AndyM. Here is his latest post for example:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/165TYp6TE6/

Definitely anti-corruption.

AndyM Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 11:39 pm

You can’t be serious.

SquattyCutback Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 02:03 pm

You sound vaccinated.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 02:13 pm

I thought we were talking about Gerard Rennick actively voting against a federal anti-corruption commission?

SquattyCutback Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 03:42 pm

Get the criminals to investigate themselves. Then use it to say I told you so, now stop complaining. I don't have a clear solution, even with an independent investigation, but I can see the problem. That is the first step.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 03:51 pm

If it's an independent commission, how are the criminals investigating themselves?
In any case, the Bill passed the Both houses despite the LNP and Gerard Rennick voting against it.
Smells fishy eh?
Not putting up any red flags for you?

SquattyCutback Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 04:08 pm

You can say something is independent and wrap it up in official branding and quote laws etc but still it many aspects of it can be influenced, hence my comment re independent investigations. Royal commissions are supposedly independent but there are clues in the title and the outcomes are often woefully inadequate. Often it becomes more useful for the people committing crimes to claim they are innocent. No I don't have a better solution but I recognize the problem.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 04:16 pm

Yeah true.
Best to do nothing and try nothing and be a complete sucker and a dummy, it's the only way.
Especially if you're trying to justify the dodgy party and candidate you're recommending.

SquattyCutback Friday, 25 Apr 2025 at 11:38 am

No what I'm saying is giving the authority to the wrong people to investigate something can be worse than doing nothing at all. It can be used to cover up crimes and convince an electorate that the concerns they had were unjustified and there is nothing to worry about.

The WEF are doing exactly the same now:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16SDrydj6p/

Nothing will happen to Klaus but public opinion will be manipulated.

AndyM Friday, 25 Apr 2025 at 05:05 pm

Sounds like they're always going to be the wrong people eh?

basesix Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 05:25 pm

you got an pile of 'open a good red' bingo cards that have one square with 'you sound vaccinated' written on it, @AndyM? I do.. cellar's gonna take a slow pounding I reckon.

basesix Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 06:16 pm

ummm.. that was cue, @Squatty.. I have a pen and a corkscrew ready..

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 06:30 pm

Gosh and I thought he was so switched on with these kinds of things.

rothmanisatool Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 02:35 pm

agree. as i said above. everything is a limited hangout.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)

BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 04:37 pm

Are you sure Gerard Rennick is anti-environment? I have subscribed the Gerard's (and Andrew Wilkie's) Youtube channel for years and for me he is well balanced.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 05:43 pm

Haha, so according to that second video, if you let rivers run you're wasting water.
And you say he's pro environment.
Are you serious or trolling for shits and gigs?
Let's get this straight - he voted consistently against increasing protection of Australia's fresh water.
He also voted consistently for making more water from Murray-Darling Basin available to use.
Just another genius that wants to destroy any remaining ecosystems to (continue to) irrigate semi-arid areas.

stunet Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 06:39 pm

That second video is absurd. A natural ecosystem is unproductive so it's proof of Labor and The Greens dastardly ways.

Gotta be a gee up.

AndyM Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 07:57 pm

Don't think so, in my experience there's a reasonable amount of people out there who believe in the "nature is a resource to be exploited absolutely" schtick.
Anything less is Marxist mind-virus communism.
I'd put my father as one of them.

bbbird Tuesday, 22 Apr 2025 at 09:53 pm

The elephant in the room is global weather extremes (eg. heatwaves, storms, floods, bushfires etc) and interest$ on business or multiple properties 'investment' being a max tax deduction / evasion. Neither major 'party' wants to cook their golden goose voters & heavy fossil dependant industry supporters (millionares & media mates).
https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals-and-families/income-deductions-offse…
PAYE & super schemes are the bread for the Oz financial system cream, churned into butter with salt.
Build one home for one family was normal in 1950s - 70's.
There are an estimated 10.9 million dwellings in Australia as of June 2022 (ABS)
https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/109-million-dwelling…
The Census usual resident population of Australia in 2021 was 25,422,797, living in 10,874,835 dwellings with an average household size of 2.52. https://profile.id.com.au/australia/population
https://www.revenue.nsw.gov.au/taxes-duties-levies-royalties/foreign-bu…
Free energy from the sun is perfect for OZ. "solar technology in Australia, given we have the highest average solar irradiation per square meter of any continent globally, no matter the season. "
https://research.csiro.au/solar/not-too-hot-not-too-cold-whats-just-rig…
Go figure...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-27/foreign-buyers-china-hk-india-wa…

Blingas Wednesday, 23 Apr 2025 at 12:30 pm

Gary Stevenson is a good listen.

Let’s just tax wealth more and tax work less

Both parties are not planning to do this. Vote independent this two party system in Australia is a big part of the problem. Is too easy for the lobby groups to buy power

juegasiempre Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:54 am

WTF is happening at the moment. When did all this nonsense become normalised? When did people that failed basic schooling suddenly think that they're smart and everyone else is dumb?

I love Australia but fuck me, we've imported so much nonsense for no real reason. Are people's lives that bad at the moment?

stunet Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 07:57 am

Australia: Huge reserves of critical minerals yet lacking in critical thinking.

juegasiempre Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 08:19 am

But surely these people, the ones that are SURE of their beliefs found out in the course of their primary/secondary schooling where they fit on the bell curve. Peers will even let you know if you're a delusional dumbarse, teachers will surely let you know.

Where/when did they forget those experiences?

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman

rooftop Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 04:54 pm

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BarbB Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 04:40 pm

There is no such thing as "critical minerals", apart from "critical for weapons to slaughter people". Most of these "critical minerals" are in over-supply, selling at historic prices. Many rare earth deposits, for example, remain uneconomic to develop.

The whole problem of "critical minerals" is for the USA weapons industry and for the USA that both lacks resources & productive efficiency.

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 08:40 am

And people wonder why I've got a chip on my shoulder about American cultural imperialism.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, this flat earth bullshit is part of the deal with the devil regarding hyper-individualism and libertarianism (the American fantasy), in conjunction with the god-shaped hole.
Part of our (largely American) culture now dictates that not only is it ok to delude yourself, it's uncool to call someone out on it.

rooftop Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 04:35 pm

Totally agree re: American cultural exports, but these people don't "think it's ok to delude yourself", they honestly think they're onto the truth.

Apart from the lives lost and the general harm wrought by a bumbling government response, the largest casualty of Covid was social capital. I couldn't believe how many of my seemingly rational thinking acquaintances ran straight to simple narratives of good and evil based on the most outrageously nonsensical premises, rather than face the messy truth of 8 billion people all mucking through as best they could in the face of a complex landscape and competing interests.

Put any one of these armchair experts in charge of something actually complex and consequential and they would make our government appointees look like glowing beacons of reason and competence. In fact, we don't have to imagine what that would look like, one of them was in the White House at the time....

rothmanisatool Tuesday, 29 Apr 2025 at 08:35 pm

operation warp speed was a DOD bioweapons countermeasure. think about what that actually means and who was running the show, if you think the president has any power and doesnt do as he is told, you forgot what happened in november 1963. warp speed went perfectly to plan. was fascinating and impressive to be honest, but just a beta test........what comes next is much worse while we continue to be distracted by the bread and circus.

shoredump Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 10:58 am

@juegasiempre, the moment was when the algorithm started kicking in

mcbain Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 03:21 pm

Interesting.... DM podcasts own/manage Aintthatswell.
DM Podcasts are being paid by Labor to help with their media and podcast strategy....
ATS do interviews in seats with no Labor chance promoting independents......
I wonder who's interests are being promoted/protected here....Could it just be a very clever Labor strategy to limit Coalition seats....I wonder if ATS would look at a Labor seat with an independent's chance? Such as the seat of Gilmore perhaps? Media types may want to ask that question to ATS.

Ripper Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 03:23 pm

Well here we are peeps with a 2 party system that is failing the majority in favour of a wealthy minority! The so called Millenials are coping the brunt of this & hopefully will vote in a majority of independents that may change the way this system operates to form a more egalitarian society that actually works for the majority & not for themselves & a priviliged few! IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE ! (Whitlam's govt '72 )!

AndyM Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 03:35 pm

The changing landscape of the two-party system.

"Over five decades, here’s how voters have shifted away from the major parties"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/election-data-rise-independents-…

TH Thursday, 24 Apr 2025 at 09:01 pm

I love these guys.
Despite what everyone thinks about politics/politicians/policies etc., these guys are hugely popular with young lads. They are getting a message across to them that it's not about gender, women or the Andrew Tate's of the world. It's about the environment, taxing the massive resources companies and putting money into basic needs.

tip-top1 Friday, 25 Apr 2025 at 06:05 pm

greens have sided with Labor in the past , are they still on the same train ??