The Mighty J'Bay Pro forum thread
Is this thing a foregone conclusion or is Fred going to topple another giant ?
Toledo not scared to unleash.
So good to watch.
Fred looking a bit like a millennial Bede Durbidge by comparison.
I was way more impressed by that floater than any aerial I've ever seen. Fucking crazy.
Fuck, Blowie, maaaate, you must be spent! Watching, commenting, self-fellating. You're a one-man band!
"Drink it Freddie, drink it!"
Hang on, was that you in that old Milo ad??
Parko looks chubby faced....and Fred could've got an extra section out of that barrel. Might cost him.
Zero chance that wave of Fred's was the best wave of the heat so far.
Great comp and the two finalists really earned their slots.
Well, better get back to work. It wass fun.
If Fred had pulled in and extended the barrel he would have won. That said, Toledo deserved the win.
Look at the head on the bloke carrying the board.
Ultra gurn.
Looked like he'd necked some pills at the start of the final and they'd just hit him like a tonne of bricks.
"Did you see that wall Wilko just took off on ?
Better go get some tissues....."
Now THAT is a "no comment necessary" comment, Shatner!
This connest made me excited to watch pro surfing again. Fuck the last few days have been phenomenal.
Ps. The best surfers in the world are on the WSL. No doubt about it
After pumping 4ft + waves for the whole contest I think the best surfer for the comp won...who'd have thought at j-bay that would be Toledo...not me...
And he's only 22yrs old! Didn't realise he was so young. Look out!
For me, given a good quality surf, there several blokes that will step up and make the championship a good challenge. Maybe JJF won't be the clear leader.
10000 x this, Goofy.
It's one thing to nail a clip after 10000 attempts. It's another thing entirely to do it on the big stage when the chips are down.
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Sure, timeless style and all, but you don't really think that Curren's turns were as hard, fast, and committed as Jordy's?
No wonder people complain about judging.
Put Toledo on a 6'6 ( Curren was on a 6'9 ) and brief him on mimicking Curren's flow and I reckon he'd go close.
He is that good.
Jordy, Toledo..nah both great surfers.
But JJF has much more of what Curren had in style, flow and just placement on a wave, especially his uncanny barrel sense.
That Curren footage is timeless though, especially seeing his board was so long.
On Felipe..... he took the criteria redefinition he applied to that small final at snapper in 2' surf(2015?) to 6'+ surf at jbay and redefined it again. Amazing performance heat on heat. He continues to improve. If he applies the same diligence as ADS to areas of weakness(in this case big barreling lefts)he'll be near unstoppable. What he needs to work out now is the shortest plane route to Tahiti, get a nice place on the point and move in for the next 6 weeks until the event starts.
On JBay.... If you were to watch any heat again and place an average joe, or even a good surfer on nearly any of those waves, not many would link it end to end. What a challenging technical wave. Even fewer would put half the turns down that the 44 were. Those guys are brilliant surfers all.
@Stunet, interesting comment. I don't know exactly what committed means or is meant to mean, but, anyway, I put forward that no! Jordy's turns weren't as hard and fast as the great man's. Perhaps driving can be chucked in there as well. Why? Well, apart from it being Tom Curren, boards. Rail on boards. Rail in water. Volume.
@Blowin', I reckon someone briefed Toledo on Florence's top turns/carves at Margs, 'cos he's mimicking them. Mimicking them.
Mimic.
I don't know. Not for mine.
Maybe Toledo can and will mimic Tom Curren's set rail and drive off the bottom at waves that are fit for purpose.
But why bother? He's the man. Now.
Apparently.
Speed, power & flow. Curren gets it for me.
It was Toms first wave out there too, probably Jordy's 200th.
To be fair, Toledo is a quick learner and he's committed to learning whatever it takes to WIN!
Or something.
Where's (a) Sean Holmes when you need 'em?
And will/can Toledo mimic Kong at Sunset (if need be)?
Both Jordy & Curren looked amazing surfing those waves IMO. So difficult to compare eras, too many variables.....
"Gimme more o' that ol' man nostalgia..."
Again, interesting comment. Someone on this thread questioned what the demographic on here was. I'm guessing older gentlemen. 40+?
Life begins at 40. The (clichéd) crisis. What to do? Stave off a creeping nostalgia or rather the perception of succumbing to it and EMBRACE THE NEW (even beyond all reason)? Or reject?
It's not an either/or proposition.
Actually, probably going and surfing J-Bay would be the winner. Who's been? Who's going?
I've been. I'm going again.
Outside circus time, of course.
Go and flow, baby, flow.
From the clip by Snuffy, Jordy was definitely above Curren. But the styles are different and what was deemed to be a more difficult manoeuvre was different.
But if you follow the wave closely it is amazing how similar the waves were - after 20 odd years !!
Herc, you been?
And there's a newish bloke over your neck of the woods (well, that coast) that surfed it better than most of this current crop. In and out of competition. Well, I thought so.
Funny, can't seem to locate any footage at this point in (no) time. Work, hey?
Get to it, swoll-nuts.
"From the clip by Snuffy, Jordy was definitely above Curren."
@Tony Barber (is that your real name? Kool), how and why?
Why? Because Jordy was starting his carves earlier and holding them longer.
Fuck, no wonder surfers have to get coaches like Micro.
Perhaps I should get in on the racket?
Off the bottom?
Actually, apart from Curren's funky lay-back thing, off the top too? If so, by how much of a stretch?
Again, taking into account board differences?
And let's not go into the "how"...
I do concur, yep, it's a racket.
Fuck, where's Derek Hynd when you need him? TC two-stage bottom turn anyone?
Horses for courses.
Actually, this one's for Herc. And Blowie.
Read through it. You be the judge.
Aaaah, nostalgia.
I'm even pictured!!
'Herc, you been'
Gidday shats, no, there's a reason that bloke you mention shifted. Plus, wordy has it that some of the boys, not exactly known for chargin' too hard, (unlike some champin' swillnuts), even found it lacking. I'm pretty spoiled, years and years and years and years and years and years of it (shit where were we again) oh yeh, so... nah. No doubt it has its days, they all do, but, like I said, if I stood on the cliff, and spruiked up cross shore, choppy windslop as all time perfection, even my dynamic sledging would be put to the test!
Some great shots Shatner. I think I've surfed them all except for Madeira.
Nice photo of your pit. Good times.
That was a good thread.
It's a shame that Herc's photo is no longer up.
Oh wait a minute.....yep , I can still laugh just as hard from the memory .
Fraud !
Someone call for Dekka Hynd?
Skip to 1:10....or don't if you dig your 80s synths.
Stunts, I was referring to Derek Hynd as journo cum surfing analyst cum technique coach. Like Nick Carroll. Like others. Cough cough.
Herc, J-Bay is a pretty sick wave. Forget the frothing on here. Right-points, gotta love 'em. I like SA (both of 'em). Actually, the beery right...nah, let's not go there (especially if you're 'farming' with the ILLBOY!)
As for Blowie, hmmmm...
Fraud you cry?
Check this fellas.
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Erm, I was aware of that SB, but clearly he ain't coming so why not run some footy of him at J'Bay? You know, the contest that was just on.
Fuck!!! 8 -10 foot barrelin' perfection! Nuttin's changed! Fuckin surfees, ya gotta laugh ya fuckin' head off!
Poor little drivvlin swillnuttin double decker switchin' and twitchin' blowie! There's another place he dodged, and he'll never, ever, ever, ever forget! Never once had to watch out for blowie in the real world!
It'll come up at the wake... always does. And, like I said, ya can't protect em all.
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Fuckin surfees, ya gotta laugh ya fuckin hed off!
We did it last comp and it worked OK, so here we are again with only a little bit of prompting from Zen.
We'll run forecasts and comp updates on the homepage but everything else, the banter, board talk, and inevitable conspircay theories can go in here.