2022 Election
Nice to see the issue getting some mainstream traction - we've been harping on about it for a while here. While working in Karratha, friends in one of the company houses had an AC unit the size of a room, keeping the thing going was about $1700 per quarter in '06 iirc, East coast Oz says 'hold my beer'. If ALP follow through with a gas reservation for the east I'll be pleasantly surprised...
I read labor is going to cut funding to public hospitals by 2.4 billion over 4 years. Wow.
Haha Dutton on 7.30.
Clown, reckon he better get back to Ray Hadley's studio for a massage....
oxrox wrote:
I read labor is going to cut funding to public hospitals by 2.4 billion over 4 years. Wow.
Reference?
oxrox wrote:
Article by abc. Journalist Stephanie Dalzell
Cheers, will give it a read ...
andy-mac wrote:
Article by abc. Journalist Stephanie Dalzellhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/101585400
Cheers, will give it a read ...
Lets see what Labor does. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/27/threaten-austral…The Liberals are responsible for more cover ups than a dodgy tattoo parlour. pic.twitter.com/UGDxPcIGlx
— Jason Clare MP (@JasonClareMP) October 27, 2022
andy-mac wrote:
I read labor is going to cut funding to public hospitals by 2.4 billion over 4 years. Wow.Reference?
I think jimmy chalmers needs a new calculator...
taking $2.4 b out of public hospitals
and providing essentially free childcare for couples on $500k
WTF?
andy-mac wrote:
Article by abc. Journalist Stephanie Dalzellhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/101585400
Cheers, will give it a read ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/19/shiny-new-hospita…
Maybe money better spent elsewhere?On surface though, yeah not a good look....
I didn’t realise just how early in 2020 Scotty appointed himself joint health & finance minister. Wonder how Hunt is doing these days
Just noticed this on the Member for Cook's parliament house website bio listing, and did a double-take.#auspol pic.twitter.com/zxAslADjqe
— Paul Osborne (@osbornep) November 1, 2022
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-02/qld-robodebt-scott-morrison-pres…
Scotty was busy. Good Christian work ethic....
Sky news reckons it’s going to be close . Those odds have a bigger spread than the federal election. 
Supafreak wrote:
Sky news reckons it’s going to be close . Those odds have a bigger spread than the federal election.
LNP was out to $10.00 only a few days ago.
It's also not just Sky News that are saying things are looking much more even now, it's every media outlet, they were saying the same on ABC radio today.
Example "Labor and the Coalition neck-and-neck days out from the Victorian election, polling shows"
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victorian-election-labor-and-the-coal…
Seriously though forget political parties, or just imagine if Dan Andrews was with LNP.
It's absolutely crazy that Dan not only has a chance of re election but its his to lose, the guy has been a complete train wreck, especially during Covid, and has put Victoria in debt at crazy levels higher than SA, WA, NT, TAS, QLD combined and he has been under investigation for all kinds of issues of corruption and misspending.
Im not a huge fan of Matthew Guy, but it should just be a situation where people vote Dan out just because he has been so terrible, it's seriously weird though its like many are in a cult and under some spell from a cult leader, i seriously think he could do pretty much anything and some people would just go, Dans great.
Supafreak wrote:
Time to move to tassie indo ?
Honestly I'm not very hopeful but as long as my electorate swings back to LNP i will be happy and we would be crazy not too Labor have promised us 6.1 million LNP 52.3 million.
You only have to have a look at a map and see where the problem is Melbourne is a sea of Red and then the city centre is Greens.
The older i get the more i hate cities and everything they represent, it fucks people up in every way body and mind.
If only North Qld had proper waves on the coast.
you might just get a pleasant surprise yet indo...
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/politics/mass-exodus-of-danie…
something seriously suss about andrews, ...that's without even considering corona... which is a mammoth of a consideation to overlook...
bigger debt than NSW, QLD and TAS combined... quite an achievement...
then his justification for taking on more debt was just scary under the circumstances
no wonder he was so desperate to be china's bitch...
and corrupt as fuck
you'd have to be a self maochist idiot to give this guy your approval with your vote...
which doesn't mean Id vote for the other guy, but most certainly definitey... 'its time'
LNP into $5 now indo , get ya money on . No offence to any victorians but I’m glad I don’t live there or had to put up with what you went through during covid , I still think dangerous dan will win though. It will be the second election the media has lost , heads will roll .
I don't live in Victoria and I don't know anything about these upcoming elections. But it does look like a one-way street with the same people being elected all the time. I am actually quite surprised by this.
Back in June, I traveled to Melbourne for work. I was there for a few days and I stayed in one of the hotels on Collins street. My impression was that Melbourne is the most neglected CBD in the country. I purposely walked around and observed stuff as I do in any city. I also went for a couple of runs (7km per run) and the surface was horrible. Damaged, unsafe footpaths and dodgy pathways. I had to slow the pace down so I don't hit something at speed. On one run I followed the river east and it was quite nice initially but it turned ugly after I passed the tennis courts. That path ends nowhere, under the freeway overpasses near Richmond I think. It looked and felt super dodgy, with graffiti everywhere, and rubbish...On another occasion, I went up through the Royal Gardens, and Zoo and then back down into the CBD, following that road next to the markets. That whole run was quite difficult with the terrible conditions of the footpaths.
Overall, I had a good time and I enjoyed some good restaurants. But generally speaking, there's a lot of rubbish around (by Australian standards), graffiti everywhere, and a general lack of maintenance in the local environment. I don't know how people put up with this. And I don't know what are those city-centric MPs doing for their electorates. Based on some basic, physical observation, I would say they are not doing much at all.
I think boundaries have changed on that map, Polwarth now extends toward the Torquopolis. I did note Sustainable Australia was on the senate ticket, so there's that.
It’s not that “ dans great “ , it’s more “ how pathetic “ the LNP are .
VIDEO: https://t.co/LAz2KGMHNI
— PRGuy (@PRGuy17) November 24, 2022
This bromance is well and truly over . https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-25/frydenberg-speaks-on-morrison-se…
sypkan wrote:
you might just get a pleasant surprise yet indo...
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/politics/mass-exodus-of-danie…
something seriously suss about andrews, ...that's without even considering corona... which is a mammoth of a consideation to overlook...
bigger debt than NSW, QLD and TAS combined... quite an achievement...
then his justification for taking on more debt was just scary under the circumstances
no wonder he was so desperate to be china's bitch...
and corrupt as fuck
you'd have to be a self maochist idiot to give this guy your approval with your vote...
which doesn't mean Id vote for the other guy, but most certainly definitey... 'its time'
Honestly this election isn't so much about LNP or Labor I'm not much of fan of Matt Guy, all i care about is a kind of justice, i just want to see the arse end of Dan.
Id be just as happy if Labor won and Dan lost his seat, very unlikely but odds are a bit better than a party win guy opponent in Dans electorate is down to $4
Dan has just become way too much of a power tripper and become way overconfident and arrogant like Kennett had he needs to go, its crazy that the majority might not agree.
Anyway voted today so done my bit.
Ian Cook vs The Crook
I know its unlikely, but how good would this upset be.
Supafreak wrote:
4 more years … Credlin is on suicide watch
I am sure there a few others who will be struggling, another thing to blame on Andrews.
I am quite pleased that the Libs have not been rewarded for having totally negative campaign that was only focussed on attacking the Premier with nothing to offer other than not being Dan. We don’t need pissy American Presidential type elections here.
Irrespective of your preferred choice of government, the Victorian election has shown what little influence the Murdoch press has over the community these days.
thermalben wrote:
Irrespective of your preferred choice of government, the Victorian election has shown what little influence the Murdoch press has over the community these days.
Good, May that continue.
Supafreak wrote:
https://twitter.com/pulpcurry/status/1596446041644990464?s=46&t=xWwL98s…
Supafreak. Love it. ‘Whats the matter young lady, why such a sad face ? “
That wasn't even particularly close, just shows how bad the Liberals are and how irrelevant Limited News has become
AlfredWallace wrote:
Irrespective of your preferred choice of government, the Victorian election has shown what little influence the Murdoch press has over the community these days.Good, May that continue.
some of us have been saying this for a long time
but it makes for a good excuse...
san Guine wrote:
That wasn't even particularly close, just shows how bad the Liberals are and how irrelevant Limited News has become
victoria liberals really do need a good hard look at themselves, basically unelectable, even more so than morrison...
which is an impressive feat
and their campaigns are just pathetic, they think the electorate hate labor as much as what they do, ...so a very negative persoal campaign should do the job...
the electorate don't share this hate, ...they just think labor are hopeless...
big difference
having said that, about hate... the full anti corona crowd are still harbouring a lot of hate
and the libeals totally endeavoured to capitalise on this
but, as many people show on here, most people have moved on... and are willing to put the whole shambolic debacle behind them...
dandrews and co., in their victory elation, have misconstrued this as some form of widespread approval of their response
I would say... yeh nah...
the less you talk of that the better
I agree that the LNP basically put up no fight and offered basically nothing , i actually get why people wouldn't vote for them in this case, they were just pathetic and so is Matthew Guy.
But in elections like this you shouldn't be voting in a government, you should be voting one out.
And how on earth can people vote for Dan after everything he has done to Victorians, it's insane, he is the most power hungry incompetent and corrupt state leader in Australia especially during Covid.
I don't think LNP capitalised on this or the media, FFS we had the longest lock down in the world we were criticised not just by Australians but people and media around the world.
It's seriously like watching a women in an abusive relationship that gets beaten up time after time, but is scared to leave and makes excuses for him, he's not so bad and i love him.
And FFS can someone seriously explain why inner city folk vote Greens? You live in a concrete jungle detached from nature, you are high earners and key players in capitalism but you vote Green???.
Seems the vocal minority were just that and sanity has prevailed, again.
Along with the Herald Sun kudos should also go to 9infotainment and their Peta Credin apprentice at the Age, Annika Smethurst, for her daily anti Labor articles. Not that any of it mattered.
Some good news for the Liberals with John Pesutto likely to be elected back into the parliament and straight into the opposition leaders position. The voice of reason, common sense and real traditional centre right liberal values!
"And how on earth can people vote for Dan after everything he has done to Victorians, it's insane, he is the most power hungry incompetent and corrupt state leader in Australia especially during Covid.
I don't think LNP capitalised on this or the media,"
Umm, Indo, that last line. That was all the LNP and the media did (Herald sun, Sky, sometimes 9 and the age), but they didn't offer anything up themselves.
Perhaps time for some introspection Indo? The majority of the population have seen it differently to you, as they did at the federal level. To suggest an equivalency with an abusive relationship is pretty low.
https://twitter.com/harrisonvevo/status/1596449103327637505?s=46&t=JWJDd6qwCj7An2y_VVi9_Q She’s like the kiss of death.
Perhaps a reality check is in order...
The order of Winners by Vic vote %
Vic Nat Party gains 1% vote & bags 3 extra Seats
Vic Greens gain 0.63% vote & bag 1 extra Seat.
The Loser
Vic [L] dropped just 1.6% & loses a whopping 7 seats & This Guy falls on his Sword
Vic's Biggest Loser
Dan's Labor got spanked dropping a massive 5.6% of vote yet bizarrely lost no seats?
Current State Total Vote Count ALP 965 K (vs) LNP 896 K.
Vic tally is closing faster with each postal Vote favouring LNP.( Noting 31.77% votes to count?)
Oz Media would assume that LNP is on track to overtake ALP on Votes cast to Win Vic % Vote!
Media "Landslide"...guess they're predicting LNP winning a Vic Total Voting % Mandate?
Recapping PM Albo scored less % of Votes than Loser Bill...(Read into it what you like!)
Crew are smart enough to suss that Dan is fast losing his 48.52% mandate by 5.66% & sliding fast!
Dan may claim he's lost no seats but is on track to lose 6-10% Vic Voting Mandate ( A Victory?)
Computer says LNP should rightly pause to consider that they may actually win the Vic Popular Vote.
Sure! tbb's Outrageous claim sounds like a joke...but watch this space! (Should give ALP a scare!)
Just saying if Crew thought Dan's vote was gonna collapse then tbb is first to believe them!
Why!
Coz Vic ALP vote is fast collapsing by every second & minute of each day & that, you can count on!
sypkan wrote:
That wasn't even particularly close, just shows how bad the Liberals are and how irrelevant Limited News has becomevictoria liberals really do need a good hard look at themselves, basically unelectable, even more so than morrison...
which is an impressive feat
and their campaigns are just pathetic, they think the electorate hate labor as much as what they do, ...so a very negative persoal campaign should do the job...
the electorate don't share this hate, ...they just think labor are hopeless...
big difference
Exactly sypkan, the Libs were relentlessly negative and quite poisonous.
The electorate are done with that kind of carry on.
I don't want to wade into your argument, and I haven't a clue about the other candidates, but as an outsider it seems unbelievable that anyone would vote for Dan A.
indo-dreaming wrote:
And FFS can someone seriously explain why inner city folk vote Greens? You live in a concrete jungle detached from nature, you are high earners and key players in capitalism but you vote Green???.
I think it's schizophrenic... They are the concrete/industrial/financial machine and their ideal is this tranquil, green apotheosis. It's curious, isn't it?
Island Bay wrote:
I don't want to wade into your argument, and I haven't a clue about the other candidates, but as an outsider it seems unbelievable that anyone would vote for Dan A.
Shows the quality of the opposition eh .
tbb's on the money with the stats again...
"...Vic's Biggest Loser
Dan's Labor got spanked dropping a massive 5.6% of vote yet bizarrely lost no seats?
Current State Total Vote Count ALP 965 K (vs) LNP 896 K.
Vic tally is closing faster with each postal Vote favouring LNP.( Noting 31.77% votes to count?)
Oz Media would assume that LNP is on track to overtake ALP on Votes cast to Win Vic % Vote!
Media "Landslide"..."
as I heard this morning, dandrews has 'the laptop class' sewn up
but in traditional labor seats ie. those that actually have to do work... those that either lost work, lost businesses, or had to slave through the pandemic... there was a huge corona backlash...
but it was all in strong labor seats where the backlash wasn't strong enough to actually flip the seats
and, ironically, in these ip obsessed times... those seats (and backlash) was probably made up by a large proportion of new migrants... 'the people of colour' ...as is polite to say in some circles...
no landslide, just kinda lucky where it mattered (a bit trumpy 2016 you might say... or not...)
if anything, there was a huge movement away from labor for victoria - 'the very labor state' - much like federally, the two major parties are scraping through on pretty unconvincing primary votes
you go you little voter!
vote the bastards out
eventually...
Supafreak wrote:
I don't want to wade into your argument, and I haven't a clue about the other candidates, but as an outsider it seems unbelievable that anyone would vote for Dan A.Shows the quality of the opposition eh .
Or the quality of the voters, haha :-)
Lies, damned lies, and statistics
No loss of votes in the eastern and south-eastern electorates that were once "blue", you know, the ones that helped the LNP formed state and federal governments that are now solid Labor or Teal. It sort of confirms the electoral wilderness destiny for the good ole boys that and Mr Potato-head's dated policy stance its going a very long time out there alone on the prairie.
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