Think you might be right Pete. And for an extra point can you tell me where the name No Toes comes from?

Some things are best kept under the hat stu. I have pics of that place at 15' back in 1980 - some swell had snuck through the continental shelf gap out there - I checked - slid past the island, and carwyon(?) the welshman just made it out before the wind changed.

we look like a ripe pair nettle, looking at the avatars here - but at least my bloke made the nose

And how do you know mine didn't? Might've been a mishap on the return voyage.

Thank the good Lord Bob Cooper never pulled a trip kick wearing those God forsaken sluggoes. Some parts of a man's anatomy should only bee seen by proctologists and morticians.