Middle East Mess
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233
Hundreds killed in hospital escalating everything.
"the Israeli military blamed on a failed rocket launch by a Palestinian militant group..
"the Israeli military denied responsibility for the blast at the Al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital in Gaza City, suggesting the hospital was hit by a failed rocket launch by the enclave's Palestinian Islamic Jihad military group.
""An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit," a spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces said.
""Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza," the spokesperson added."
And:
"Hamas stores ammunition in schools, puts missile launchers adjacent to mosques, sets up command centers in hospitals, and generally bases its operations in densely populated civilian neighborhoods."
— Hudson Institute (@HudsonInstitute) October 17, 2023
— Senior Fellow Douglas Feith in @TheFPhttps://t.co/28yeU667Br
The truth is simple. Iran is at war with Israel and with the U.S. It does not seek compromise or accommodation. It wants what it says it wants: a holocaust in Israel and the destruction of the U.S., writes @wrmead https://t.co/twyEippiBw
— Wall Street Journal Opinion (@WSJopinion) October 17, 2023
as per Ray Dalio's recent article.
So much can go wrong in urban war.
Blame will be apportioned as suits the various agendas.
Be careful jumping in too soon with opinions.
In the Russian / Ukraine conflict it was easy for the media - Putin could be safely blamed for everything without bothering to even check or pause for reflection - even if it was likely to be a misfired Ukrainian shell (as happened).
Not so easy in the Gaza. Journos mostly treading carefully in this conflict.
There is actual blame for an event which is often hidden in the fog but then there is the reflected blame which can take on a life of its own.
Few scenario's.
1. Hamas launch rockets from hospital site as they launch from places like this to use civilian's as a shield, Israel fuck up and hit rocket launch point.
2. Hamas launch rockets from hospital site or next too and screw up.
3. Hamas target a hospital on purpose to claim Israel did it, to gain more support from Western media and your Jellys in an attempt to put pressure on Israel to easy off or stop getting rid of Hamas.
Id be putting ever dollar i have its number three.
There is also other glaringly obvious scenarios ;)
1. id has no idea
2. id thinks he knows shit and just makes stuff up
3. id has no idea
There is overwhelming evidence for this ;)
- when id jumps to conclusions it’s backed up by assumptions only.
It’s another symptom of going full …… ;)
He’s not retired, but he did spend years in construction… he is a ……
indo-dreaming wrote:
Few scenario's.
1. Hamas launch rockets from hospital site as they launch from places like this to use civilian's as a shield, Israel fuck up and hit rocket launch point.
2. Hamas launch rockets from hospital site or next too and screw up.
3. Hamas target a hospital on purpose to claim Israel did it, to gain more support from Western media and your Jellys in an attempt to put pressure on Israel to easy off or stop getting rid of Hamas.
Id be putting ever dollar i have its number three.
4. Israel erroneously bombed the hospital.
5. Israel deliberately bombed the hospital.
Roadkill is all good with the hospital bombing according to his post yesterday.
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill is all good with the hospital bombing according to his post yesterday.
A child's response as usual.
It was a western baptist Christian hospital.
Islamic jihad Hamas would have no regrets bombing that one to get people accusing Israel.
Hamas kill their own to get the gullible world onside and are even blocking evacuations from the area Israel want to clean up.
It would be nice if this were a discussion thread without dumping dozens of edited videos on it.
Events overnight.
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