Thanks Belly. Sorry for delayed reply...only just saw this. Thanks for the feedback and agree with your thoughts. Well we might have Rabs now on the GC and potentially Maurice Cole on the Surf Coast. Who would've thunk....times are a changin. It's been a pretty hectic year and so much more going on since i posted this, which is out dated anyway, but still holds some relevance. Currently putting my energy towards what we can do to actually avoid being attacked in the first place. Nature has lessons we're not listening to and there's definitely a way to stop being sitting ducks. I've wanted to post my ideas on this for a while but have been hesitant due to the constant black and white i'm reading of correspondents on here. Really wanna see crew pull together and not form allegiances to one side or the other regarding shark mitigation. There is actually other solutions but by fighting about cull or not cull we're completely overlooking them. Thanks again for your thoughts bud. Yew!

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Hey Cheers Belly!!! Sorry to only reply now but i only just saw this. Surfers are the worst...especially when it comes to being responsible. Yeah that's the way i see it too...and i haaaate to live in a litigated society...but when the big dogs are making dollars at the expense of others and their way of living, it's time to hold them accountable. Theirs actually alot more to this story that my non journalistic/scientific brain couldn't get around, including how the cost of water from the Casino council went up at the same time they changed their practices. And it was a direct money grab by Casino council on the abattoir to make more money. But i honestly don't have the skills to go that deep...but the evidence is there. The buck was passed so to speak. I still stand by my research and still believe at the time, it was part of the reason for the attacks, and fuck, hopefully the casino somehow read it and changed their ways. My life was pretty drastically affected at the time by the government and i couldn't help but think in the most paranoid of ways that it was all connected so i backed off. Anyway.....

Ha ha, thanks bluediamond, you acknowledged 2 posts above, all good.
I'm not sure how my post came across but as an undergraduate economist, and as my career has progressed, I've just been thinking more that our economic system needs to mature in terms of the cost of externalities. Be it carbon, waste, or other non intended outcomes (increased prevalence of shark attacks?). I think too much responsibility is left to the consumer and not the corporation, and often the legal system provides a good basis of bringing change. I'll leave it at that for now after 3 frothies :-)
Merry Christmas :-)

If you read this thread, what is amazing is that there are so few shark attacks around Ballina - all those bull sharks!

B Diamond not sure if youve seen this
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/12/14/shark-attack-hotspo…

Interesting udo, you are the master of links

That's quite a bit of research. I noted that some of the locations are approximate, eg the Wedge Island attacks. 30% near outfalls... 80% within 40km of outfalls 2010-20

Na hardly a link master that article popped up as i was checking todays shark attack details
attack time - weather - moon phase etc with the 2014 attack at Tathra .

Yes! 2nd that velocityjohnno...udo is an excellent researcher.
Plenty of great local leads as well.

Verifying that as far back as 1700's worldly beachgoers feared Sewage attracts sharks.
1870's From day one all Aussie Surfers knew not to shit where they surfed.
1883 Free Shark food handouts was the national term for Sewer outfalls.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/107236034?searchTerm=Sewage%…
1914 Bondi noted that their putrid darkened sewage seeped sand was drawing sharks into shore.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/114242670?searchTerm=Sewage%…
1926 Oz were trying to headline the fact that Sharks love Poo Soup.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/117328105?searchTerm=Sewage%…
1960's Syd big wastewater outfalls attracted Big Sharks so they hired Japs to cut the fins off Sharks.
https://theconversation.com/sharks-in-the-city-getting-to-know-the-neig…

Note: Oz #1 Shark finning capital (Endangered Hammer Heads are the Prize)
Loophole allows harvesting to sell shark & fin online/onshore then cut fin & dump / or can the rest.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/study-names-australia-as-a-major-source…

2021 Will Vax Rollout covid leakage spawn a Mutant Great White Covid Strain...
Don't worry! His flesh eating drool is worse than his bite! (Science Fiction Flesh Eaters?)
Without antibiotics the Shark Tally wouldn't feature survivors...
Blood can be replaced but Shark virus kills!
Rule #1 Every Shark bite victim's "treatment" requires Antibiotics.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/melissacristinamarquez/2020/02/27/how-anti…
Ok! But that's just a warning...nothing serious would eventuate...Would it!
Shark Victim...Go fund My Flesh!
https://au.news.yahoo.com/shark-attack-victims-desperate-plea-contracti…

Marine life can't escape inshore drug cocktails & cross contamination virus from Human Wastewater
Seals, Dolphins & Whales contract coronavirus thru Eyes & Blowholes from inshore sewage outfalls.
Pretty sure the get Avian & canine diseases as well...again there's no escaping it..24/7 & spreads.
This is why Govt's order public away from marine carcasses....Vibrio contagion outbreaks!

tbb warns if you don't know what Vibrio is...don't do a google image search! Just Don't!

Yeah wow. Cheers Udo, and TBB for those links. Well, 2000 a cows upstream without a foolsafe method of stopping their bloody carcass juices from reaching the river surely falls into the wastewater category.
I remember watching a doco a few years ago, but can't find it anywhere. It was research into different reasons behind attacks, i think in Sth Africa. The main takeaway that came out of it was that urinating in your wettie was a huge trigger to alert a noah, especially White Pointers of your presence and lead to a higher chance of attack. I don't wee in my wettie anymore, if possible anyway. That's one of those factors that's probably hard to check up on, but i wonder how many crew that have been attacked are constant wetty pissers.

https://www.surfingguidetosharks.com/the-guide

Good one Udo. They should put this up at every beach carpark Australia wide. It's pretty thorough, and although most of this is second nature to alot of us, there's some good reinforcement in it and also a few things i learnt from it too. Loved the one, 'if you feel a bump, calmly leave the water'! haha. Yeah right. If only it was that simple.
Such a good point about not splashing and fleeing a Pointer....but minimizing anything that will cause it to enter attack/pursue mode.

'Apply indirect pressure to the femoral artery, compress the artery to the bone helping to
shut off blood flow and prevent blood loss. '
This is such a key thing and something largely overlooked. We're told to apply pressure and stop bleeding, but if it's a femoral artery, i think the directive needs to be more specific. Would be good to have more information put out into the surfing community about this one, because time is of the essence when dealing with this situation.

Just popped back in to this thread and re read all the comments. Cheers all. Appreciate your feedback as always! It's a good place to throw all our wild and not so wild theories out there so go your hardest. All these bits of wisdom thrown in the mix, some kind of gold has to eventually rise to the top. So sad to hear the news a couple of weeks ago from Tuncurry breakwall.
Hopefully if i was even remotely on the right track, which i think i was back in 2016, enough things have changed in the practices of the Casino Meat Works to lower the frequency of shark interactions around the mouth of the river. If i was wrong, at least it's one less stone unturned :-)

A late question which I could not find answer for ( only quick look ) .
When was the abattoir opened ? Also a tannery and guess that was opened at the same time .

If been going for longer than the shark problems where is the correlation ?

Byron proved sharks hang around the out flow but did not increase numbers to the problem levels of today .

Hi Hutchy. I'd recommend reading it. The correlation comes from the timing of SCU's trial of using the wastewater on the land to encourage a 'green' solution to treating the wastewater (growing reeds that would suck up the water and then using the crops for other purposes) as opposed to the tried and trued and stringent practice of containing that water within vats and allowing the water to evaporate. Maybe linked, maybe not. There's also something i dug up about it correlating with exactly the same period that Casino council upped the rates for water due to the excessive usage from the abbatoir but can't find the link for that but it conveniently ties into the same period of time. Onto something? Maybe, probably not, but there's a possibility and that's what i was raising for discussion. Cheers.

Another one for the timeline. May have been posted above but will post again.
https://www.theland.com.au/story/4713226/ncmc-defends-approach-to-waste/

Blue Diamond . Thanks for responding . I wrote just wrote a post on sharks on Interesting Stuff . Can so no link to shark numbers and possible green solutions and out flows in general ( as I pointed out in my other post ). When was it opened ?

Also hope you can respond to suggestions on your other topic which I would be keen to see .

Any chance you could do your own research Hutch? Plenty out there in google world.

BD
Don't need to . Using your words " flogging a dead horse on this one."

https://www.echo.net.au/2025/03/booyong-abattoir-redevelopment-approved/