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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12 am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

Pop Down Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 12:38 pm new

What a jolly joker you are Eta !

Betting Agencies and Casino's play by the same rules .

They want other people's money !

Maybe the Clan Agency has better odds for Harris as laying off the Weight of money but in a 2 Horse Race , very funny !

The money is not Jumping Off the Trump band wagon , it's jumping On , as the odds clearly show .

A Chartist could predict the Outcome , on the Graph provided above .

The trend is your friend .

Fliplid Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 12:54 pm new

Popular vote, Trump 28% Harris 78%, seems like the gerrymander is working as planned

https://polymarket.com/elections

velocityjohnno Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:00 pm new

sportsbet currently trump 1.72 harris 2.10

Pop Down Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:09 pm new

Flipy

No Electoral boundaries have been changed by Trump in the last 4 years so he is NO Gerry !

Like Australia , the US is a big country and they decided they didn't want City Slickers to decide who Runs Their Country .

Imagine Melbourne and Sydney 's Inner Elites , deciding who is PM (President) lol ?

Adam Brandt .

velocityjohnno Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:10 pm new

And has Pennsylvania at Repub 1.84 Democrat 1.96 fwiw

velocityjohnno Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:12 pm new

I'd like to celebrate some Americana:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wienermobile

Perhaps the cultural gap is a bit too big for us Aussies on this one

basesix Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:18 pm new
Jelly Flater Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:45 pm new

^ nice b6
- goes well with some clunky old peter gabriel ;)

Jelly Flater Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:46 pm new

& some election fever countdown side quests

;);)

Fliplid Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:57 pm new

Pop Down, Trump was too busy building a wall to worry about changing electoral boundaries. As you know it’s a legacy gift from previous republicans, politicians who actually knew how to get things done

Can’t really claim that he is the peoples choice with those numbers though, not that that will stop him from doing so

indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 02:00 pm new

> double post

indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 01:59 pm new

. double post

etarip Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 02:34 pm new

Pop Down wrote:

What a jolly joker you are Eta !

Betting Agencies and Casino's play by the same rules .

They want other people's money !

Maybe the Clan Agency has better odds for Harris as laying off the Weight of money but in a 2 Horse Race , very funny !

The money is not Jumping Off the Trump band wagon , it's jumping On , as the odds clearly show .

A Chartist could predict the Outcome , on the Graph provided above .

The trend is your friend .

PD, full of shit again.
Polymarket, partly owned by pro-Trump billionaire Peter Thiel, ISN’T subject to the same rules as US-based betting companies.

You can’t even not lie about that most basic fact.

You’re a genuinely busted unit, PD. There’s something wrong with you.

etarip Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 02:49 pm new

https://www.wired.com/story/polymarket-betting-presidential-election-ha…

Anyway, here’s a run down on polymarket.

Wired is deemed ‘center’ by allsides
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/wired

And left-center (but factually high) by media bias fact check

Overall, we rate Wired Left-Center biased in wording and report choices and factually high due to proper sourcing.

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/wired-magazine/

indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 03:20 pm new

indo-dreaming wrote:

Odd's are really blowing out, last time Trump was in this position odd's wise was back at the end of July

Trump 53.9

Harris 44.7

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Yeah i get that Philadelphia is the state that either have to win unless a lot of cards fall differently than expected, but i think these odds are changing because almost all these swing states seems to be moving towards Trump including Philadelphia.

But that said, in all honestly it's hard to know what to believe, you can find polls and media favouring either position. (hence why i think odds are almost a better gauge in a weird way)

One thing for certain, right now there does seem to be a momentum swing Trumps way.

Its almost like watching an AFL game, where it's neck and neck and the winner is decided by what team has momentum at the end of the 4th quarter.

https://i.imgur.com/ihOQ0PQ.png

But betting odds are all over the shop as well, and vary depending on specific methodologies:

“Betting odds change depending on the methodologies used by each site. In contrast to polling, which uses quantitative data from representative samples, bookmakers are free to add additional factors into the odds they offer.

For betting sites like Betfair, which currently gives Harris a 48 percent chance of winning the election (with Trump on 47), betters are gambling against each other rather than bookmakers' odds, meaning the odds are dictated by public interaction and people's beliefs or predictions.

Other sites, like Polymarket, which currently gives Trump a two-point lead over Harris, use a "blockchain-based prediction market" to allow users to buy the equivalent of shares in a certain outcome, increasing the odds of that outcome happening according to "collective wisdom."

Im saying it's perfect or its everything but it's still a good indication of how the public is feeling day to day and where the money is going etc and helps show trends etc

And this one is also taking an average of seven different betting companies.

Edit: "Im not saying"

etarip Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 03:51 pm new

Yeah, agree that it’s an interesting data point nonetheless.

Pop Down Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 04:04 pm new

Eta , you are falling behind !

We are talking about the Odds each Agency ( Casino ) are offering .

You are back in Regulators Rules that are different .

How much difference in the odds are You seeing , 1 or 2 points .

It's not out of 10 Eta , it's out of a hundred , really !

Whatever U are trying 2 say is , like normal .

Makes no sense .

Keep trying though .

As a Kamala Neutral , your Trump is in overdrive .

Pick ANY Agency and see how the Odds have Shifted in the last month , IF you want to know what's going on .

I hope that helps U :) !

Jelly Flater Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 04:05 pm new

…freedom, liberty and …ummm …death ;)

Jelly Flater Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 04:07 pm new

& pop… keep hitting those bumps ;)
- you’re riding a tour de trump on ya bike with no seat haha

udo Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 04:21 pm new
Pop Down Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 04:27 pm new

Thanks Jelly !

I already know , but have done this sort of thing before and know it can B painful .

Can you get Eta a Bike , so he can join the Tour ?

He's way at the back of the Peloton :) !

Hey Roady

I would like 2C that 2 !

Roadkill Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 04:25 pm new

PD dreams of a Trump IT bike.

Hint. Southpark.

Jelly Flater Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 05:08 pm new

;)

Juliang Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 07:46 pm new

indo-dreaming wrote:

Doesn't it have a reputation as being the city that globalisation pretty much destroyed? (jobs going offshore)

Ive watched videos where it's just blocks upon blocks of houses and vacant land that nobody wants, going very cheap.

This might be more up to date .
Not a good idea to piss off the Michigan
voters either.

Juliang Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 09:26 pm new

“The man has no idea how much the city has
prospered “

indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 09:58 pm new

Next week things might totally flip again, so let's not get too excited Pop's, but right now the left wing media seem worried which is a very good sign.

Im honestly surprised i thought Trump blew his chances with that debate, she performed well, he performed badly and he said some real dumb shit, i didn't think he could bounce back. but he really seems to be in with a chance.

"Why one pollster thinks Harris' campaign may be stalling"

indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 10:19 pm new

And some very interesting data

https://i.imgur.com/EWzPUjx.png

sypkan Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 10:59 pm new

"Empress Kamala’s New Clothes

Like Biden in June and July, she isn’t doing well when exposed to the public

This week’s political headlines were eerily similar in feel to those of early July, following that momentous Joe Biden-Donald Trump debate. It’s the feel of a Democratic Party realizing (again) that the looms really were without thread, that their nominee—exposed to the nation—is looking a bit bare.

“Democrats start to hit the panic button.” “Kamala Harris Is Making the Same Mistakes She Made in 2019.” “Democrats grow anxious.” Ms. Harris “struggling to break through with working class” and “struggles to differentiate herself from Biden” and “struggles to answer questions” and generally . . . struggles. “Kamala Harris Could Be in Trouble.”

Pray tell, how? Weeks ago, Ms. Harris was the standard-bearer of “joy,” “freedom” and “opportunity,” the “juggernaut” who exudes “quiet prowess” and “humiliates” her opponent and delivers a “debate knockout” and runs a “brilliant campaign” and “dominates” among voters. The “Gen Z Meme Queen” whose party had woefully “underestimated” her “raw talent.”

These superlatives came from the same partisan press corps that insisted Mr. Biden was fine—until it couldn’t. The same media that before the Biden debate warned against Ms. Harris’s enormous liabilities—until it got stuck with her. The same press corps that is now discovering that even unrelenting hagiography can’t make up for those Harris weaknesses.

Her problem—like Mr. Biden’s—comes from finally being seen. She outperformed Mr. Trump in their debate a month ago, though she did it by saying nothing of consequence. She’s since embarked on a “media blitz,” and in doing so confirmed the wisdom of all those advisers who fought never to let that happen. Recent weeks have shown a candidate whose answer to every question is canned, memorized, substance-free. Twice this week alone she flubbed softballs designed to let her discreetly break with the unpopular current president. “The View”: “Would you have done something differently than President Biden?” Ms. Harris: “There is not a thing that comes to mind.”

Most revealing was her “60 Minutes” interview with CBS’s Bill Whitaker, who provided a rare glimpse of real journalism by asking tough questions and pushing back against her carefully empty, focus-grouped replies. When he asked how she’d pay for her raft of new entitlements, she professed her love for small businesses. Obviously. Asked again how she’d “pay,” she rolled out the “fair share” taxes line. Asked how she’d convince Congress to get on board, she suggested unnamed congressional Republicans secretly support her tax hikes. Asked to explain why her administration allowed a “historic flood” of migrants to cross the border, she dodged—four times. Invited to enlighten the many voters who “still say they don’t know you,” Ms. Harris agreed she definitely needed to “earn” their votes—and didn’t say how..."

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/empress-kamalas-new-clothes-2024-presidenti…

sypkan Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 11:04 pm new
burleigh Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 11:15 pm new

Hey Jules and Roadkill

southernraw Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 12:29 am new

I think Kamala will win. I hope Kamala will win. She seems like a nice person. Seems to have a really good energy.
And the world could really do with a woman's touch at the moment.
Long overdue. Well worth trying something new.

truebluebasher Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 01:29 am new

Hurricane Alley X Files for Cybercab Crash Test Dummies
Alt title...(Murdering Meteorologists won't Stop Hurricanes!)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1e8q50y3v7o

2 Oct [1.8m] Hurricane Helene Lithium Rabbit Hole
https://www.mediamatters.org/tiktok/conspiracy-theories-about-hurricane…

4th Oct [54k] Florida Weather Manipulation is Illegal Ok! ..Don't try this at Home
https://x.com/laralogan/status/1843455482729738586

4th Oct[43.6m] Yes they can control the weather, ridiculous to say it's a lie!
https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/1842039774359462324
[3.5m] LASERS ( Not yer normal Hurricane Lasers but Jewish Space LASERS )
https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/1842758787087704494
https://www.mediamatters.org/hurricanes/hurricane-milton-grows-so-do-co…
https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/marjorie-taylor-greene-penned-con…

6th Oct [40k] Stratospheric Aerosol Injection > Alter Weather to benefit some at expense of others!
https://x.com/CreasonJana/status/1842909399012032794

6th Oct [Site] Genocidal NWO Global Cabal Geo-terrorists Darpa Geo-engineered Milton the Monster
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/10/06/florida-under-withering-w…

7th Oct [4k] Why does Govt keep manipulating weather to target Florida instead of Russia
https://x.com/lancewallnau/status/1843141466039705631

7th Oct [14k] Senators agree Hurricane Helene was Manipulated by WMD Ionosphere Heater!
https://x.com/genflynn/status/1843261651128046012?s=46&t=PN52ydwTvFusTe…

7th Oct [1.3m] This is Just Not Normal!
"Do we have Weather Manipulation going on to cause Election Interference!"
https://x.com/atensnut/status/1842960561010782391

7th Oct [70k] "Cloud Seeding Milton!"
https://www.mediamatters.org/media/4024654

8th Oct [7.7m] "Geo Engineering to fuckin' wipe out Panama City Beach Spot X!"
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1843702412844118027
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8th Oct [54k] Targeted Geo Engineered Weapons
https://x.com/realstewpeters/status/1843300437514199439

8th Oct [21k] Operation Popeye Weather Modified Hurricane Leslie so Nadine can knock out the S/E.
https://x.com/idontexistTore/status/1843432906062200867

9th Oct [275k] Stop the breathing of those that made them and their Affiliates
https://x.com/weather_katie/status/1843836479103217844

NEWS : US Meteorologists face Death Threats as Hurricane Conspiracies Surge!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/11/meteorologists-death-th…

* It's Ok to Take out the Doppler Radars!
* Whoever created Milton should be killed!

https://www.youtube.com/live/eIDd_kJlRdA?t=5160s

Pop Down Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 06:47 am new

Hello TBB

Happy Sunday !

I did read that there was a Conspiracy Theory about Milton being Doctored .

I couldn't think of 1 reason why , so dismissed it .

Gosh , looks like I might B wrong again .

burleigh Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 07:34 am new

southernraw wrote:

I think Kamala will win. I hope Kamala will win. She seems like a nice person. Seems to have a really good energy.

And the world could really do with a woman's touch at the moment.

Long overdue. Well worth trying something new.

She is a puppet. Who is pulling the strings?

Jelly Flater Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 08:40 am new
Jelly Flater Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 08:41 am new

;)

Jelly Flater Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 10:08 am new

;);)

Juliang Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 10:23 am new

MAGAphiles get fooled by propaganda and
AI , but it doesn’t worry them as long as
Trump is still their hero .
Trump and Vance chickening out of debates and 60 minutes interviews
because they think it’s unfair if they are
fact checked .
Highlights their 24/7 lying campaign.

southernraw Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 10:23 am new

burleigh wrote:

I think Kamala will win. I hope Kamala will win. She seems like a nice person. Seems to have a really good energy.

And the world could really do with a woman's touch at the moment.

Long overdue. Well worth trying something new.

She is a puppet. Who is pulling the strings?

Maybe mate. Who really knows.

Juliang Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 10:33 am new

MAGAphiles get fooled by propaganda and
AI , but it doesn’t worry them as long as
Trump is still their hero .
Trump and Vance chickening out of debates and 60 minutes interviews
because they think it’s unfair if they are
fact checked .
Highlights their 24/7 lying campaign.
Trump has no facts, only lies, so if he has to get fact checked, he has nothing to say,
that’s why he won’t do proper interviews or debates.

indo-dreaming Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 10:56 am new

Juliang wrote:

MAGAphiles get fooled by propaganda

Says the guy that constantly post pure propaganda videos.

indo-dreaming Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 11:02 am new

One aspect that i think really favours Harris, is mail in ballots, because she encourages them while Trump discourages people to use them, not believing they are safe.

IMHO this is stupid he is shooting himself in the foot, he has basically given Harris a head start.

You want people to vote early once done they are secure votes, they cant change their mind.

And not being compulsory there is many who come voting day might not be bothered with the hassle and crowds

In such a close election this could really favour Harris.

Jelly Flater Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 11:05 am new
Juliang Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 11:10 am new

indo-dreaming wrote:

MAGAphiles get fooled by propaganda

Says the guy that constantly post pure propaganda videos.

Is that why Trump and Vance won’t do any debates or interviews.
Where they’re going to be fact checked ?
Because if they can’t lie that puts them at a significant disadvantage .
And they complain about it , blatantly.

Jelly Flater Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 11:11 am new
Juliang Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 11:35 am new

“ Trump won’t back down “
Except for the odd debate and 60 minutes
interview
I think Indo saved them to his playlist.

sypkan Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 12:22 pm new

is kamala going to accept the joe rogan interview?

something to ponder...

in your delusional deranged bubble

Jelly Flater Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 12:50 pm new

;)

Jelly Flater Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 12:52 pm new
Roadkill Sunday, 13 Oct 2024 at 12:55 pm new

Jelly trying to confirm his dominance with posting bs YouTube clips. Juliang and PD tried to better jelly over the last week..but jelly is fighting back today.