Roadkill wrote:

sypkan wrote:

monkeyboy wrote:

It feels like our country is falling apart, really falling apart. I just dont think we have the leadership anywhere to help; not in the public or private sector. It feels like "every person for themselves". Like a good day at Boiling Pot.

haha... totally!

but don't worry, a month or two and it all will have passed and cooler heads will prevail...

people are literally wigging out right now, having a little internal existential crisis, ...if they admit it or not...

(whether it's justified or not)

trust me, coupla weeks, the world will appear a different place, some normalcy will return

then is the time for reckoning...

and maybe a list...

"then is the time for reckoning..." "and maybe a list..."

What does this actually mean?

It means sypkan is showing his fascist tendencies again.

Sypkan, always talking in riddles.
Name names. The list, who makes it?
Names or it's boring.
Again.

It probably means recriminations for the weirdos out there who’ve shown themselves to be utter flogs as soon as our community experiences the slightest wobble or deviation from normality.

Flogs like the bloke who last week declared that anyone not double vaccinated in a bakery was a potential murderer but now claims that even those ONLY double vaccinated are potential granny killers. The flogs who went to water and started revving up hate and division at the first hint of personal anxiety.

Though I’d dearly love to dispense a fair kick to the pants of these flogs, I reckon that we’d be best just to pretend the whole thing never happened and take it as a lesson that episodes such as 1935 Germany aren’t restricted to those of Teutonic descent.

Roadkill wrote:

monkeyboy wrote:

It feels like our country is falling apart, really falling apart. I just dont think we have the leadership anywhere to help; not in the public or private sector. It feels like "every person for themselves". Like a good day at Boiling Pot.

That is very dramatic.

On the whole we are doing really well. So many countries are envious of how well we are doing. I can't think of any other country I would rather be than here.

Who is envious of Australia? Or you making shit up again Roadkill.

Of course you would say that, you’re perfect world is a little bubble when if you sneeze you get locked up for 2 weeks.

You’re a scared old man, scared of a runny nose and want to potentially injure kids to keep you “safe”

Sypkan is prone to wild theories.

Can anyone translate whatever the fuck snowflake is posting about?

burleigh][quote=Roadkill wrote:

monkeyboy wrote:

It feels like our country is falling apart, really falling apart. I just dont think we have the leadership anywhere to help; not in the public or private sector. It feels like "every person for themselves". Like a good day at Boiling Pot.

That is very dramatic.

On the whole we are doing really well. So many countries are envious of how well we are doing. I can't think of any other country I would rather be than here.

Who is envious of Australia? Or you making shit up again Roadkill.

Of course you would say that, you’re perfect world is a little bubble when if you sneeze you get locked up for 2 weeks.

You’re a scared old man, scared of a runny nose and want to potentially injure kids to keep you “safe”[/quote

This guy, lmao

Stok wrote:

Blowin wrote:

No, you're arguing for censorship. You just don’t like to be confronted with the definition of your actions as you like to convince yourself you’re a fair minded individual and not prone to petty tyranny.

If you don’t appreciate the questioning of authority by some on here that’s fine. Don’t engage with them. No one has asked for your contributions. Society needs , always and forever, people to question authority and the status quo. Particularly now with the pandemic acting as catalyst for all manner of revolutionary and momentous changes to society. Even to how we view ourselves as a society.

Not all behaviour taken in the name of the virus is benign and there’s a lot of very powerful and unhinged people who would abuse the situation to their own advantage.

Cynicism, skepticism and vocal expression of doubt are more essential now than in any period during my lifetime.

You don’t want to bear witness or , Heaven forbid, a few of your own personal beliefs are brought under the microscope, then perhaps you should step away?

Questioning authority is fine, go your hardest. But, before you go around telling your little stories to anyone who'll listen, ask yourself:

- Am I appropriately informed to be making these assertions?

- Am I qualified or experienced enough?

- Am I offering solutions which I'm confident will provide better results, and will I take accountability if not?

If the answer to any of the above is no, any self respecting adult would keep their mouth shut.

Sure, there's probably some foul play associated with the pandemic response, but it's a drop in the ocean compared to the foul play coming from the contrarians, the opportunistic grifters who've seen an chance like never before to capture the minds of a poor, misguided populace who feel hard done by because they had to wear a mask for a few weeks, or couldn't go to the pub. We've seen protests and anti government sentiment like never before, built on a backbone of anti-intellectualism / anti-science - all due to a few savvy conspiracy theorists, fringe politicians and 'innocent doubt' spreaders such as yourself.

What's even worse is Australia has enjoyed an incredibly smooth ride, and now has an exceptional vaccination rate (i.e. envy of the world), over the last 2 years due to government policy and sound medical advice - yet dickheads across the country still are crying big fat tears about losing their freedoms and how Australia has fallen, simply ignoring the fact that hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved.

Your problem is that you believe the most egregious missteps in the response to the virus have been science based. Incorrect.

The most impactful and onerous measures were ethically dubious and no attempt at scientific justification was ever established, even attempted.

So yes, I am qualified as a fair minded, sane and reasonably intelligent person to comment on the suitability of measures taken during this time. Particularly as it affects myself and those around me on a level which goes to the very heart of individual liberty. This is exponentially more true when it’s realised that Scott “ I shit my pants at MacDonalds “ Morrison is the apex leader to whom I’m supposed to defer momentous decisions over my bodily autonomy and inherent freedoms.

BTW…..you ever stopped to wonder why the national pandemic preparedness plans , which do exist prior to covid, explicitly avoided and denounced lockdowns. Yet within a few weeks of the virus being discovered these extensive plans were immediately shelved and we were locked in our homes?

Yeah, I'd probably be inclined to say envy isn't the right word. Not from where I'm sitting anyway.

And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.

well, iit'd start with faucci and half of his merry men, their political enablers, and their media enablers...

throw in that peter daszak cunt, ...just because he's a cunt...

do the same in oz... (a small list)

do the same on swellnet... (see above -though cafe lycra didn't quite make my list, too insignificant... but those other misinformation spreading henny pennys!)

zenagain wrote:

Yeah, I'd probably be inclined to say envy isn't the right word. Not from where I'm sitting anyway.

And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.

Yeah, point. Japan is pretty much spot on.

sypkan wrote:

but to ben's question...

why not the AZ vaccine?

millions and millions of whinging poms, and not much whinging, cant be wrong...

Bingo!!! Not much discussion on this topic. It sort of just drifted into the wilderness.

Roadkill wrote:

zenagain wrote:

Yeah, I'd probably be inclined to say envy isn't the right word. Not from where I'm sitting anyway.

And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.

Yeah, point. Japan is pretty much spot on.

Yep.

Japan has stridently rejected , not just vaccinate mandates, but any public pressure upon the personal choice of vaccination.

Something of which a Lycra clad , Penny Farthing fuck bag like yourself fails to have the humanism to comprehend.

Hey….you’re one of the true old school, right wing shit bags whose mantra has always been respect the wave of personal responsibility….right up until it hits the solid bedrock of your chicken shit softcock self preservation instinct turned up to 11 by viral hyperbole.

'And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.'

yep

it's what the gender bending millenial and younger ip revolutionaries now do...

kinda creepy when an old dude does it though

an angry man old dude in lycra trying to mix it up with the yooth at the skatepark...

eewwwwwww!

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

monkeyboy wrote:

It feels like our country is falling apart, really falling apart. I just dont think we have the leadership anywhere to help; not in the public or private sector. It feels like "every person for themselves". Like a good day at Boiling Pot.

That is very dramatic.

On the whole we are doing really well. So many countries are envious of how well we are doing. I can't think of any other country I would rather be than here.

Who is envious of Australia? Or you making shit up again Roadkill.

Of course you would say that, you’re perfect world is a little bubble when if you sneeze you get locked up for 2 weeks.

You’re a scared old man, scared of a runny nose and want to potentially injure kids to keep you “safe”

Gawd, you never stop making stuff up.

I have never advocated kids to get vaxed, never ever.
But hey, you never post anything close to truth.

Blowin wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

zenagain wrote:

Yeah, I'd probably be inclined to say envy isn't the right word. Not from where I'm sitting anyway.

And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.

Yeah, point. Japan is pretty much spot on.

Yep.

Japan has stridently rejected , not just vaccinate mandates, but any public pressure upon the personal choice of vaccination.

Something of which a Lycra clad , Penny Farthing fuck bag like yourself fails to have the humanism to comprehend.

Hey….you’re one of the true old school, right wing shit bags whose mantra has always been respect the wave of personal responsibility….right up until it hits the solid bedrock of your chicken shit softcock self preservation instinct turned up to 11 by viral hyperbole.

I feel the love and peace, blowin. Hug brah?

Roadkill wrote:

Blowin wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

zenagain wrote:

Yeah, I'd probably be inclined to say envy isn't the right word. Not from where I'm sitting anyway.

And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.

Yeah, point. Japan is pretty much spot on.

Yep.

Japan has stridently rejected , not just vaccinate mandates, but any public pressure upon the personal choice of vaccination.

Something of which a Lycra clad , Penny Farthing fuck bag like yourself fails to have the humanism to comprehend.

Hey….you’re one of the true old school, right wing shit bags whose mantra has always been respect the wave of personal responsibility….right up until it hits the solid bedrock of your chicken shit softcock self preservation instinct turned up to 11 by viral hyperbole.

I feel the love and peace, blowin. Hug brah?

The blowin theme song. For you, snowflake.

Blowin wrote:

So yes, I am qualified as a fair minded, sane and reasonably intelligent person

I'm wondering then just what triggers bring on the insanity and intelligence meltdown when you start referring to others as cunts, fuckwits, retards, gheys, nazis, etc, etc in what are generally intelligent discussions in these forums??

Blowin wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

zenagain wrote:

Yeah, I'd probably be inclined to say envy isn't the right word. Not from where I'm sitting anyway.

And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.

Yeah, point. Japan is pretty much spot on.

Yep.

Japan has stridently rejected , not just vaccinate mandates, but any public pressure upon the personal choice of vaccination.

Something of which a Lycra clad , Penny Farthing fuck bag like yourself fails to have the humanism to comprehend.

Hey….you’re one of the true old school, right wing shit bags whose mantra has always been respect the wave of personal responsibility….right up until it hits the solid bedrock of your chicken shit softcock self preservation instinct turned up to 11 by viral hyperbole.

Japan?
They apparently have vending machines that you can buy used panties out of in Japan too (never really saw the attraction but hey not judging..)

garyg1412 wrote:

Blowin wrote:

So yes, I am qualified as a fair minded, sane and reasonably intelligent person

I'm wondering then just what triggers bring on the insanity and intelligence meltdown when you start referring to others as cunts, fuckwits, retards, gheys, nazis, etc, etc in what are generally intelligent discussions in these forums??

It alternates between genuine frustration and having a giggle.

It’s a surf website. I speak like I would amongst the crew checking the waves. Varies on the mood, the topic and the company.

My personal favourite is when I watch Sicko Blindboy transform from Self possessed model citizen into a Drunken sailor with terminal Tourette’s in a matter of several posts.

Hilarious.

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An interesting read.

https://investors.biontech.de/node/9571/html

blowin. "So yes, I am qualified as a fair minded, sane and reasonably intelligent person"

Give you a hug?

No chance. You’ll get guano on my shoes.

Lots of crew now around here have gone through Covid.
(including my own family)

This is anecdotal so take with grain of salt.

Vaxxed seems to be 2-3days of sickness, mostly very mild, total recovery no fatigue lingering.

Unvaxxed 6-10 days with lingering fatigue. Some crew still in Wk 4 complaining of symptoms.

My observations: vax seems to reduce disease burden.

These are all young, healthy people 18-55. (plus 12 year old boy)

Source: my obs plus brothers obs plus nurse mate at Byron Hospital.

aaron your link is dated December 2020 and so is out of date.

burleigh wrote:

Wow, what a load of dribble.

Hundreds of thousands of lives? Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story Stok. Create fear in your mind and vomit it

Australia is the laughing stock of the rest of the world not the envy.

Look, I'll concede maybe the right wing, gun toting, Tucker Carlson/Candace Owens fans are laughing at Australia (in between, sadly, dying on covid) - but who really gives a fuck what they think.

But anyway, how's the maths homework going? Made it up to fractions yet? Or still on long division?

"Look, I'll concede maybe the right wing, gun toting, Tucker Carlson/Candace Owens fans are laughing at Australia (in between, sadly, dying on covid) - but who really gives a fuck what they think."
The good news is, these fruitcakes have a tourism boycott going on Australia. Pity our nutters aren't fleeing Australia for some country that hasn't "fallen".
But in all seriousness this type of shit talk is dangerous. It encourages freedumb fighting loons to take matters into their own hands. Thank christ we have strong gun laws in Australia. The last thing we need is heavily armed cranks wanting to be heroes.

Blowin wrote:

Your problem is that you believe the most egregious missteps in the response to the virus have been science based. Incorrect.

The most impactful and onerous measures were ethically dubious and no attempt at scientific justification was ever established, even attempted.

So yes, I am qualified as a fair minded, sane and reasonably intelligent person to comment on the suitability of measures taken during this time. Particularly as it affects myself and those around me on a level which goes to the very heart of individual liberty. This is exponentially more true when it’s realised that Scott “ I shit my pants at MacDonalds “ Morrison is the apex leader to whom I’m supposed to defer momentous decisions over my bodily autonomy and inherent freedoms.

BTW…..you ever stopped to wonder why the national pandemic preparedness plans , which do exist prior to covid, explicitly avoided and denounced lockdowns. Yet within a few weeks of the virus being discovered these extensive plans were immediately shelved and we were locked in our homes?

Lol - the heart of your individual liberty - Lol again.
Yesssss, how dare the governments use common sense (e.g. stay at home to avoid spreading a novel virus) and scientific recommendations (vaccinations reduce risk of hospitalisation and death), coupled with a fairly standard policy of managing infectious diseases for which we have freely available vaccines for (i.e. vaccine mandates, which limit privileges for those who refuse to make a small sacrifice of their time to get jabbed).

Vic Local wrote:

"Look, I'll concede maybe the right wing, gun toting, Tucker Carlson/Candace Owens fans are laughing at Australia (in between, sadly, dying on covid) - but who really gives a fuck what they think."

The good news is, these fruitcakes have a tourism boycott going on Australia. Pity our nutters aren't fleeing Australia for some country that hasn't "fallen".

But in all seriousness this type of shit talk is dangerous. It encourages freedumb fighting loons to take matters into their own hands. Thank christ we have strong gun laws in Australia. The last thing we need is heavily armed cranks wanting to be heroes.

Hmmmm yeah actually, for all the talk about the freedumb fighters wanting to leave Victoria and Australia....how many actually have? I feel like they're still here.....most probably just ended up getting vaxxed and moved the fuck on with their lives, wondering what BS war out of nothing they'll decide to get angry about next.

And yes, silver lining, tourism boycott of said nutters.

Stok wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Wow, what a load of dribble.

Hundreds of thousands of lives? Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story Stok. Create fear in your mind and vomit it

Australia is the laughing stock of the rest of the world not the envy.

Look, I'll concede maybe the right wing, gun toting, Tucker Carlson/Candace Owens fans are laughing at Australia (in between, sadly, dying on covid) - but who really gives a fuck what they think.

But anyway, how's the maths homework going? Made it up to fractions yet? Or still on long division?

Swelllnet self proclaimed intellect didn’t mention his claim of “hundreds of thousands” deaths.
You want to prove this or is it all in your imagination?

".......you ever stopped to wonder why the national pandemic preparedness plans , which do exist prior to covid, explicitly avoided and denounced lockdowns. "

Well no, not if you are referring to the influenza pandemic plans. Please post the relevant text to justify your assertion, with the link.

freeride76 wrote:

Lots of crew now around here have gone through Covid.

(including my own family)

This is anecdotal so take with grain of salt.

Vaxxed seems to be 2-3days of sickness, mostly very mild, total recovery no fatigue lingering.

Unvaxxed 6-10 days with lingering fatigue. Some crew still in Wk 4 complaining of symptoms.

My observations: vax seems to reduce disease burden.

These are all young, healthy people 18-55. (plus 12 year old boy)

Source: my obs plus brothers obs plus nurse mate at Byron Hospital.

Yep sounds pretty much bang on with all those I know who have caught it. No surprises it took 2 years for me to know more than 3-4 people who'd caught Covid, now I know 50+ who have in the last 4 weeks. Mostly mid 30's crew, some older some younger, including toddlers.

Of those 50 or so who've had it, only a small number (5-6) are unvaxxed and all of those unvaxxed except for 1 had a pretty rough 2 weeks and really struggled to shake it. The vaxxed said 1-3 days that felt like one of the worst flu's they've had, then just turned into a standard cold for about a week. Main issue was fatigue for up to 5 days.

Also worth noting that for all my mates who have little kids that caught it, the kids barely seemed impacted by it other than the sniffles/cough. Obviously none of them are vaxxed due to age.

sypkan wrote:

'And Sypkan a fascist? Hardly, but I think Vic you love to use that word so often It's become your go-to.'

yep

it's what the gender bending millenial and younger ip revolutionaries now do...

kinda creepy when an old dude does it though

an angry man old dude in lycra trying to mix it up with the yooth at the skatepark...

eewwwwwww!

My 16 yo daughter and her friends are the only other people I know who say, eewwwwww.

burleigh wrote:

Stok wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Wow, what a load of dribble.

Hundreds of thousands of lives? Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story Stok. Create fear in your mind and vomit it

Australia is the laughing stock of the rest of the world not the envy.

Look, I'll concede maybe the right wing, gun toting, Tucker Carlson/Candace Owens fans are laughing at Australia (in between, sadly, dying on covid) - but who really gives a fuck what they think.

But anyway, how's the maths homework going? Made it up to fractions yet? Or still on long division?

Swelllnet self proclaimed intellect didn’t mention his claim of “hundreds of thousands” deaths.

You want to prove this or is it all in your imagination?

Well the statistical geniuses on here have drawn a concrete conclusion that hospitalisation and fatality numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated are clear illustration of cause and not correlation.

So I’m interested to hear their take on the Chief Health Officer saying that “generally “ the 33 out of 36 NSW vaccinated deaths today aren’t amongst the triple jabbed.

What?!?!

This sounds like language describing a slim minority ( at least ) being triple vaccinated!

Considering that only 26% of adults are triple jabbed, what does this statistical over representation tell us about the efficacy of the booster?

Not to mention what it does for Sicko Blindboy’s preferred statement that a “ triple vaccinated 80 year old faces equal risk as an unvaccinated teenager*”?

*Lol. That statement is the ultimate unsubstantiated piss take of all time. Multiple triple jabbed deaths in a single day probably exceeding the entire total of teenage deaths in the entire two years.

Lies, lies, lies.

Sicko’s world view :

An 80 year old vaccinated person dies with covid :
“ Yeah, they had severe underlying health conditions. The vaccine isn’t perfect.”

An unvaccinated 80 year old person dies with covid ( also has severe underlying health conditions):
( Spittle flying everywhere) ……“They were unvaccinated!!!!!”

Party like it's 1992:

"“Consumer confidence readings are usually positive during the month of January and the level of 97.9 is the weakest January result since 1992, when the Australian economy was experiencing sharply rising unemployment,” Mr Plank said."

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/news/confidence-tumbles-as-omicron-take…

also on that page, we are free to travel, but:

"From November 1 fully vaccinated Australian citizens and permanent residents were allowed to travel to and from Australia without an exemption.

But ABS director of migration statistics Jenny Dobak said there are still far fewer border crossings than before the pandemic.

"In December 2019 there were 1.9 million overseas arrivals and 2.2 million overseas departures, 10 times larger than December 2021 volumes," she said."

10 times less travel. Out of interest, have any of you done an Indo trip since we have been allowed to go?

More jobs being posted on SEEK though.

adam12 wrote:

Sypkan, always talking in riddles.

Name names. The list, who makes it?

Names or it's boring.

Again.

You have to hand it to the sypkan. He’s really outdoing himself.

Over in the U.S. he's all aboard with the aristocrats, railing against the dividers and disuniters. The same dividers and disuniters who are advocating the extension and the protection of the franchise.

Back over here, sypkan's 'growing trees... to make a certain movable framework.'

sypkan: 'L'ami du peuple'!

It was the worst of times, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of sypkan.

But before mass production of the tumbrils of the Revolution gets started - didn't Robespierre/sypkan end up on his own list?

And all this while he’s out there manning the barricades, fighting to put a stop to the things that threaten to provoke US style civil unrest here in Oz - like early voting, postal votes, and sausage sizzles at polling places.

Dunno about sypkan’s backstory. But he’s (she’s?) quite the creation and it’s quite the show.

He was a young anarchist. That’s canon.

Then maybe he read James Ellroy’s White Jazz, dug it, and transformed himself into a hepcat who converses in elliptical riffs. Maybe he liked how they did things in Ellroy’s rendering of fifties LA. Everyone was on the level, within strictly policed informal hierarchical boundaries. In this perverse conception of equality, there’s no room for division to develop. Sypkan hates division. It’s not a large jump from there to assume that he started to appreciate some facets of National Socialism. Then -ideologically confused and conflicted - he developed a profound cynicism, maybe it just crept up on him, and he descended into nihilism.

So I guess he’s an anarcho-syndicalist-nihilist-centrist - who just can’t quite bring himself to take a position.

Regardless of your take on pro vax or vax hesitant, there's a clear fracturing of society taking place at the moment. Every person you meet you have to ascertain in some way their stance on it so as to understand how their life is being affected.
Personally it's a minefield of dealing with an ever enclosing net of forced mandates.
I've never been a depressed person, normally pretty upbeat, but lifes pretty fucken depressing at the moment as the cliff approaches and the point of no return of being a complete outcast of society. I can still go to road houses, i can still go to the beach. I can still go to the supermarket.
I don't think it matters your stance on vax, i think it should be acknowledged there's alot of people suffering seriious mental, spiritual and financial hardships and heartache at the moment, and before you scream ANTIVAX, because of your own particular viewpoint, remember that it's not an easy choice for people to take a stand and say no. That's my 3cents worth anyway.

Roker, I reckon you could just cut and paste your description of VIC Local from a few days back (a la Emanuel Macron) for Sykpan. Ever thought they may be the same person, just 2 sides of a very confused coin?

bd if you are feeling depressed it is important to talk to someone or to access professional help. You are right, it has been a very difficult period for a long time so it is no surprise that many people feel down. Take care of yourself.

wallpaper wrote:

Only a snivelling coward would refuse to get vaccinated.

only a bedwetter would

Vic Local wrote:

We're still waiting on your link to prove your complete and utter 3% bullshit statement blowin.

Putting up some meaningless graphic doesn't change the fact you lied about the percentage of unvaccinated people currently in ICU in NSW.

It's laughable that when your bullshit gets exposed for what it is, you don't put up your hand and admit it, you just pile more shit on top.

Like I said before, it's pathological with you mate.

still waiting on your proof from your Hillsong comment last week?

freeride76 wrote:

Lots of crew now around here have gone through Covid.

(including my own family)

This is anecdotal so take with grain of salt.

Vaxxed seems to be 2-3days of sickness, mostly very mild, total recovery no fatigue lingering.

Unvaxxed 6-10 days with lingering fatigue. Some crew still in Wk 4 complaining of symptoms.

My observations: vax seems to reduce disease burden.

These are all young, healthy people 18-55. (plus 12 year old boy)

Source: my obs plus brothers obs plus nurse mate at Byron Hospital.

What about the couple I know, one vaxed one not, the vaxed got really sick the unvaxed not.

Wait till we find what other things the vax will bring on long term, shingles is one short term, heard of 4 today.

Robo wrote:

freeride76 wrote:

Lots of crew now around here have gone through Covid.

(including my own family)

This is anecdotal so take with grain of salt.

Vaxxed seems to be 2-3days of sickness, mostly very mild, total recovery no fatigue lingering.

Unvaxxed 6-10 days with lingering fatigue. Some crew still in Wk 4 complaining of symptoms.

My observations: vax seems to reduce disease burden.

These are all young, healthy people 18-55. (plus 12 year old boy)

Source: my obs plus brothers obs plus nurse mate at Byron Hospital.

What about the couple I know, one vaxed one not, the vaxed got really sick the unvaxed not.

Wait till we find what other things the vax will bring on long term, shingles is one short term, heard of 4 today.

Wait till we find what other things the vax will bring on long term, shingles is one short term, heard of 4 today.

4 in one day…..man you make up stories.

Roker wrote:

adam12 wrote:

Sypkan, always talking in riddles.

Name names. The list, who makes it?

Names or it's boring.

Again.

You have to hand it to the sypkan. He’s really outdoing himself.

Over in the U.S. he's all aboard with the aristocrats, railing against the dividers and disuniters. The same dividers and disuniters who are advocating the extension and the protection of the franchise.

Back over here, sypkan's 'growing trees... to make a certain movable framework.'

sypkan: 'L'ami du peuple'!

It was the worst of times, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of sypkan.

But before mass production of the tumbrils of the Revolution gets started - didn't Robespierre/sypkan end up on his own list?

And all this while he’s out there manning the barricades, fighting to put a stop to the things that threaten to provoke US style civil unrest here in Oz - like early voting, postal votes, and sausage sizzles at polling places.

Dunno about sypkan’s backstory. But he’s (she’s?) quite the creation and it’s quite the show.

He was a young anarchist. That’s canon.

Then maybe he read James Ellroy’s White Jazz, dug it, and transformed himself into a hepcat who converses in elliptical riffs. Maybe he liked how they did things in Ellroy’s rendering of fifties LA. Everyone was on the level, within strictly policed informal hierarchical boundaries. In this perverse conception of equality, there’s no room for division to develop. Sypkan hates division. It’s not a large jump from there to assume that he started to appreciate some facets of National Socialism. Then -ideologically confused and conflicted - he developed a profound cynicism, maybe it just crept up on him, and he descended into nihilism.

So I guess he’s an anarcho-syndicalist-nihilist-centrist - who just can’t quite bring himself to take a position.

got me all worked out roker....

maybe... most of that I only vaguely know what you are on about...

but the last bit seems right

I'm dennis

(a non binary dennis... denise on saturday nights)

just curious, is it not ok to think our whole political / media political class is corrupted almost beyond repair?

right across the spectrum?

do i really need to pick a side on every issue?

it's the system that is broken...

Old mariner‘s saying - you can’t nail your balls to the mast if you don’t have any.

sypkan wrote:

just curious, is it not ok to think our whole political / media political class is corrupted almost beyond repair?

right across the spectrum?

do i really need to pick a side on every issue?

it's the system that is broken...

Yep, it’s fucked up.

Give me Indo, they know they’re corrupt, they don’t really try and hide it, yet here is Aus, it’s all done with faceless men pulling the strings of our puppet politicians.

Some of viclocals mates hard at it lol.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-02/japan-asks-china-to-stop-perform…

This Professor is not too happy with his government. Is he just another mad Professor gone of the rails ?………. Professor Ehud Qimron, head of Tel Aviv University’s Department of Microbiology and Immunology and one of the country’s leading immunologists, wrote an open letter harshly criticizing Israel’s – and global – handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.italy24news.com/health/337467.html
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/israeli-immuno…