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Debate winner is the one who can produce a larger quantity of controversial social media snippets. And election winner will be the one who gets more people to go out and vote in key states. Sadly, this is the world we live in.
flollo wrote:
Debate winner is the one who can produce a larger quantity of controversial social media snippets. And election winner will be the one who gets more people to go out and vote in key states. Sadly, this is the world we live in.
Thats actually very true on both points.
And yeah without compulsory voting its really all about who can get enough people motivated to vote, in a sense its almost a positive to be the underdog.
Hello Waxy 24
You seem to be very busy at the moment , with a few things a bit up in the air .
Sometime things just pop up at the most inappropriate times .
We are meant 2 be tested , it hardens us up .
You seem to have a tip top heart mate , guessing your mum is very proud of U and has given U lots of good advice and support .
I heard a young woman say this morning in a meeting , she had to clean some toilets at a Venue , it was her turn .
She said it was a horrible job , but just doing it gave her such joy .
Whatever U can do 4 your mum , will be much more than she probably wants ,or expects .
As U know , U can't do everything , so please don't worry 2 much .
Any moment u have with your mum , can be very special .
I am glad U picked me , I think , lol to chat 2 !
Here is a prayer 4 you ( I am not religious lol ) !
To whoever it may concern :) -Grant me the serenity 2 accept the things I cannot change . The courage to change the things I can and the wisdom 2 know the difference .
Bon Chance Waxy and keep waxing your boards !
Always happy 2 chat with U !
but I'll declare trump non-loser...
I think they both did well
at maintaining their ridiculous talking points, positions, and lies...
no winner
so... it comes down to the issues...
which is where trump wins, kind of, on his record... her record...
her' s is shit
diabolically so
but she has 'a plan'
bahahahahaha
whatever...
I think Harris won with a relentless
bombardment of facts
Something Trumps not used to dealing with
Wow now @sypkan
Knows better than the
Fox News Senior Political Analyst
Who gave a win to Harris
Spykans definitely must have a different
perspective on things
than the rest of the world
Juliang wrote:
I think Harris won with a relentless
bombardment of facts
Something Trumps not used to dealing with
Nah mate she spun a lot of shit too just more subtle and clever, like you banging on about Project 2025, knowing its bullshit, but it dont matter, its the same shit Trump does, so cant diss her for it, fight fire with fire.
I do think she (or her team) outsmarted Trump though clearly they thought about how they approached thing's and had a strategy, everything from the handshake (being assertive) to just being smart in turning Trumps strengths into weaknesses, pretty much baiting him, and he gobbled the baits up
Trump on the other hand probably went in overconfident thinking he had it in the bag, just go through the motions like with Biden, easy peazy.
I think she won this one, odds are even reflecting this.
She was behind now in front again.
Harris 49.9 Trump 48.5
https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president
@ Indo
Project 2025
Is a 900 page book of policies
If it’s all shit
What a waste of time?
Juliang wrote:
@ Indo
Project 2025
Is a 900 page book of policies
If it’s all shit
What a waste of time?
Dude it's a think tank, there is all kinds of think tanks.
It doesn't mean the Republicans or Trump want those things and even if they did it doesn't mean they are able to get those things through.
And Trump sure isn't the kind of leader to be told what to do by others.
It's basically just scaremongering aimed at swing voters..nothing more.
But to be fair, Trump also plays the scaremongering card all the time too.
@ Indo
Yes , the Republicans don’t necessarily want the authoritarianism of Project 2025
But MAGA and the Heritage Foundation do
that’s why they took over the party
Why would you bother to take 3 years
to formulate a 900 page policy
Blueprint , if you had no plans to use it
And how did other dictators manage to get their way ?
@indo
So how do you know project 2025 is all
bullshit when you haven’t read 1 page of it
And if it is all bullshit , why don’t you have a go at the far right authors of it
For wasting everybody’s time
Your argument doesn’t make sense , if you look into it
wax24 wrote:
You don’t need to provide solutions. Just an ear, mate.
Good response @PoppaD, it's amazing how rare it is (seemingly increasingly, as we get older) that people actually listen. If people DO listen, they often feel the need to give advice, platitudes, opinion, or display their knowledge in response (not because of malice, just social awkwardness). Cheers for venting @wax.
“ Many people Trump knows quite well are behind it.
Six of his former Cabinet secretaries helped write or collaborated on the 900-page playbook for a second Trump term published by the Heritage Foundation. Four individuals Trump nominated as ambassadors were also involved, along with several enforcers of his controversial immigration crackdown. And about 20 pages are credited to his first deputy chief of staff.
In fact, at least 140 people who worked in the Trump administration had a hand in Project 2025, a CNN review found, including more than half of the people listed as authors, editors and contributors to “Mandate for Leadership,” the project’s extensive manifesto for overhauling the executive branch.
Dozens more who staffed Trump’s government hold positions with conservative groups advising Project 2025, including his former chief of staff Mark Meadows and longtime adviser Stephen Miller. These groups also include several lawyers deeply involved in Trump’s attempts to remain in power, such as his impeachment attorney Jay Sekulow and two of the legal architects of his failed bid to overturn the 2020 presidential election, Cleta Mitchell and John Eastman.”
Once it starting polling poorly, Trump said he hardly knew these people and knew nothing much about it, as is his standard pattern.
Juliang wrote:
@ Indo
Yes , the Republicans don’t necessarily want the authoritarianism of Project 2025
But MAGA and the Heritage Foundation do
that’s why they took over the party
Why would you bother to take 3 years
to formulate a 900 page policy
Blueprint , if you had no plans to use it
And how did other dictators manage to get their way ?
Heritage Foundation do, because yes thats who created it.
MAGA is just a slogan if you want to use it to describe hardcore Trumpers, well im sure they all have varied views, im sure there's things in there that many agree with and also things many dont.
Why create the 900 page document?
Because thats what think tanks do they create wish list and try to gain support and implement these ideas, the best way to do this is to put these ideas out there in an official document presented as professionally as possible where they can then be taken seriously.
And if elected the Republican party might even use some of these ideas, but even then it doesn't actually mean they did because of the document, many of the ideas are just basic conservative type ideas & values.
BTW. To say the Heritage foundation took over the Republican party and then say Trump is a dictator is a contradiction, it would mean the Heritage party has the power and not Trump, which would mean Trump isn't a dictator, you cant have it both ways.
Anyone gullible and naive enough to believe anything Trump says would probably buy a used car from a man with a ponytail.
@ Indo
Have a go at Wally then
I’m not gonna bother reading your post
after reading his
If you can’t understand Wally’s post
Don’t quote me
sypkan wrote:
well... partisan nutters gonna nut...
and the deranged, are gonna range...
both sides on SM calling their barely presentable body smashed it!
same same
and on it goes...
Partisan non partisan doesn’t cut it here. Aussie’s who couldn’t give a shit here can clearly see he made a fool of himself(as usual) but maybe Kamala (and her team) have some smarts to get him there that you won’t give her/them credit for.
On the matter of the debate alone she is miles ahead.
Who wins the election? Who gives a…..
old-dog wrote:
Anyone gullible and naive enough to believe anything Trump says would probably buy a used car from a man with a ponytail.
Haha that’s funny
my mate and I call blokes with thinning hair ponytails 'gavins' - apologies to any gavins out there. Plenny of good gavins, I'm sure.
mm, trevor if he's from a conservative family, saul or phoenix millenial?
feeling like name judging here. be a big 'planet america' night wouldn't it?
oh shit, geoguessr world cup might have started!
https://www.geoguessr.com/world-cup
(edit: here tis seeds, leave the ol' GM in the shed)
fkn weird thing, wonder if it'll be at all watchable?
starts in 1 min?
Aw shit, now I gotta get the google machine out again.
Edit computer says no. Paul Ditin has no interwebs footprint
…” Who wins the election? Who gives a…..”
^ truest thing said yet about this whole charade
- point scoring for pointlessness
sypkan wrote:
but I'll declare trump non-loser...
I think they both did well
at maintaining their ridiculous talking points, positions, and lies...
no winner
so... it comes down to the issues...
which is where trump wins, kind of, on his record... her record...
her' s is shit
diabolically so
but she has 'a plan'
bahahahahaha
whatever...
Not sure what debate you watched to come to the conclusion you did?
Juliang wrote:
@ Indo
Have a go at Wally then
I’m not gonna bother reading your post
after reading his
If you can’t understand Wally’s post
Don’t quote me
Mate you addressed me about it.
Yeah so what if people who have worked with Trump are involved in it, no surprises, it's a major conservative think tank aimed at the Republican party.
For perspective there is over 110 conservative groups involved in it.
"As we've been saying for more than two years now, Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign. We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy & personnel recommendations for the next conservative president. But it is ultimately up to that president, who we believe will be President Trump, to decide which recommendations to implement,"
BTW. I posted a video here the other week that broke much of it down, honestly i got bored with it and didn't watch the whole video, as long, but much of it wasn't too bad, but im a conservative, although i expect there is stuff i dont agree with in there.
Hipster walks into a bar, sporting a manbun.
Hipster smiles at bartender.
bartender says: 'hey, that's a good look'.
the manbun replies: 'shit, you reckon? this thing started as a wart on me bum..'
@basesix pre game is a bit yeah nah.
(refreshing to not see any gambling ads though)
Does the action kick off soon? I’ll just put some KRS1 on in the meantime
Edit I laughed at that really bad joke
dunno, seems to be starting now, i've never watched those computer game arena spectator sports, but i do rate this game, school kids thinking about the planet. we'll see.. might be unwatchable ..
@ Indo
You originally addressed me
I’m trying to explain your everything is bullshit claim
Wally has researched it more than me
So if you’re going to ignore his post
don’t reply to me
And if you have issues with his post
Don’t ask me about it
basesix wrote:
https://www.geoguessr.com/world-cup
(edit: here tis seeds, leave the ol' GM in the shed)
fkn weird thing, wonder if it'll be at all watchable?
starts in 1 min?
Basesix & Seeds. World Cup starts Sept. 14th in Stockholm.
I’d never previously heard of it.
I played an introduction game, addicted already.
I got them all correct, high 80%, each location was just a couple of hundred kms away from the exact location which I think on a Google globe is pretty darn accurate result.
Got a bit of a rooster strut going on around home at the moment, it’s only the dog and I. But he’s impressed. AW
@ seeds
Are you saying @ Indo is an algorithm
OMG
I feel like a complete fool
we've had flinders ranges, bhutan, euro, nt now..
really quite enjoying it.. their bandwidth a little better than mine!!
Juliang wrote:
@ seeds
Are you saying @ Indo is an algorithm
OMG
I feel like a complete fool
Indo is no bot.
Was referring to dad playing guitar back when
edit yes he is a conservative bot. Worse he’s the Terminator.
@ Alfred
Yeah but you still haven’t got back to me on where my profile , photo, waves are
Still waiting
…haha
- it can’t be bargained with, it can’t be reasoned with ;)
@ seeds
Yeah I thought so
Although I always thought he was one
The Three Stooges bots
Did we find out Kamalas golfing handicap?
Does she even play golf?
I can't imagine a US President who doesn't play golf.
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