;)

- maybe time to mix it up a bit ay

…maybe even a tribute to the heritage of the dingus ;)
- a ballad of freedom and shared aspirational ‘dreams’

indo-dreaming wrote:

wax24 wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

Listened today I wouldnt go as far as saying she handed Trump's arse in a handbag, but i actually thought Harris did quite well, so much better than her CNN interview and Trump wasnt as good as he has been in the past.

She at least broke even maybe even ahead of Trump i guess the voters are the ones who make that call, I do think this might see her get a little boost though, maybe even be enough to win.

But my god, both are just so full of shit Trump was talking shit per usual but OMG so was Harris, both were just making shit up about the other, i guess Harris thought got to fight fire with fire.

Both really shouldn't be president to think the options have been Trump. Biden & Harris is crazy, especially when you have ten times better options in people like De Santis & Tulsi and im sure there is others.

Hey Indo. Hope all is well.

That last bit that elevates DeSantis and Tulsi. aside, i was readin your post and noddin along and thinkin, ‘yup, Indo’s gettin his finger on the pulse.’

As to the two mentioned at the end, we’ll, you are a fan, i am not, but that is to be expected, hey?

I do think, and this is coming from as an objective place as i can, that their political careers are peaking now. If Trump wins, there’ll probs be a seat at the table and maybe? a future. If Harris wins, this is king tide for their careers.

I will add that i did not see anything that moved the needle from this debate. Harris had the better night, but i don’t think this’ll tank anybody. It’ll still go down to the wire.

Go well mate.

Agree with that too, sadly i think they both have probably peaked in their political careers, or more so had their spot light hours definitely Tulsi, De Santis maybe not he has taken a back seat and kind of distanced from Trump which might be a good thing in the future.

It's kind of sad there must be so many decent politicians on both sides of politics that come and go and never make it for various reasons like not peaking at the right time or aligning with political cycles or just not being the puppet they need to be for the party.

I hate the whole deep state idea, but i expect there is a lot of powers behind the scenes that we dont know or see that can make or break politicians.

Yeah, mate, agree on a coupla things here… one, yes, there is talent, from what i can see on both sides of the aisles. One on the right that i can work with is Dan Crenshaw. Not that i agree with him on, well, most things,, but i’d be more than happy to lean into his competence and his willingness to consider Other Ideas. Check him out.
And yes, there are layers and layers where mistakes are made in the assessment of electability.
Deep State?! As that is advertised?! Please.
(and i get that you were just using it cuz it has become common enough that we can communicate by referencing it)
This is a Democracy/Republic. The first of it’s kind, in modern history. It replaced a monarchy system.
No matter HOW noble the ideas/ideals… they’ll still be carried out by Falliable-As-Fuck humans.
Meaning, those that have, will rule.
That is true across the fucking board, my friend.
To cherry pick examples of that ubiquitous piece of humanity to ascribe conspiracy theory?
Please.

cackling dingus and orange baby
time to secede, CA, maybe.
in San Diego, waxxys band,
decided once to take a stand

Blood, sugar, sex and magic,
ten and nevermind, they found tragic,
(proto-punk nostalgia too),
so they plugged in and just let goooo...

For clarity, Indo, i am taking exception with the notion of a Deep State, as it is utilized in these types of spaces.
Had absolutely no problem with your using it to express yourself.

Here you go @juliang, been playing this for years

GuySmiley wrote:

Here you go @juliang, been playing this for years

Hey Guy… roughest two weeks of my life were spent on a night like this.

basesix wrote:

oh, baby, baby, it's a wide world

(happy travels @AW, on the road myself atm, feels good, eh?)

Basesix. Hi mate. Love a road trip, just finished packing, in bed Swellnetting, starts at 5.30am tomorrow, quick brekkie, regional taxi pick up from my farm, drop off bus stop in nearest town, 7.30am bus to Tullamarine airport, 11,20am flight to Cairns, 2.40pm arrival, grab ex wife’s work Ute from airport car park, shop for food, fill up solar fridge, head to Yorkeys Knob 10km north of Cairns, pull into the best little Thai restaurant in the village, the woman is Thai and makes the most authentic and delicious food take away, short drive to the beach esplanade illuminated shelter and toilet block, listen to wailing Bush Stone Curlews that gather, eat whilst watching Port Adelaide v Hawthorn on the iPad, from here on ‘free camping’ begins, slither into the back of the Ute canopy, not a soul would know I’m in there, dream the night away and hit the road, Tully River Gorge, there’s a few Cassowaries hanging there at the moment, ‘I’m Johnny on The Spot’ first thing. Life is good. AW

Edit. Which ‘Wide Open Road’ are you on B6 ? Safe travels my friend.

Topical I would have thought

Looking at the grave
At the scenery around you
Home of the brave
Sometimes they leave you like they found you
Sometimes they worship you
Sometimes they tear your houses down
Sometimes they comfort you
Sometimes they spread your life around
Nothing you can see
That they won't try to give you
Land of the free
Where the legend will outlive you
When you earn their trust
When you are truly in danger
Where greed and lust
Have never been a stranger
Home of the brave
That's where heroes need protection
Media images slaves
Live by random selection
You sell your heart
But that's not the price of freedom
Where things are useful
Only when you need them
Where will you go
When you need to make some changes
Who will you love
In a world of constant strangers
I'll go with you
If you want to take a hero home
I'll stay behind
If you want to take a hero home
Looking at the grave
At the scenery around you
Home of the brave
Sometimes they leave you like they found you
Home of the brave
Home of the brave
Home of the brave
Home of the brave
Home of the brave
Home of the brave

wax24 wrote:

GuySmiley wrote:

Here you go @juliang, been playing this for years

Hey Guy… roughest two weeks of my life were spent on a night like this.

Travel safely travel well

Pop Down wrote:

Hey Waxy

I didn't mention what I have been up 2 .

I retired at the end of last year and have done a lot of travel .

I had 2 move out , owner wanted in , of an apartment in early June , so put all my Stuff in Storage , ready 2 move .

One thing after another , happened and only moved into a converted Warehouse last Friday and had all my Artwork installed yesterday .

Waxy , I have realised I am not the type of bloke who could B a Cowboy .

Just a horse , few belongings and the Stars , Sky and Universe as a home .

Some would call that Freedom , the World is my Oyster Stuff .

I feel so much better , having a Home !

A home base , filled with things I love , especially my kingsize bed .

The Walls are huge , 6 meters in some spots .

My home base HAD to be , where my family live .

My roots run deep in Melbourne and am now feeling Settled , again .

ps

I have a spare bedroom for Seppo's !

Hey Pops. Congrats on the retirement and travel!
(my joke with peers is that i will retire at approx noon on the day of my funeral.)
not cuz of some noble, archaic work ethic (tho, i do possess that), but because things have become viciously expensive. lol?
Anyways, good on ya for the opportunity embraced.
Seems like you had some tumult and came through.
I’d sure bet on ya.
So glad to hear that you’ve settled.
Humans are funny as all get out.
We want hearth and home AND freedom!
(fwiw… i agree with you and side on hearth and home. but need my getaways to find balance. i’m weird.)

For you @AW and others out on the road … rare EP release: Interstate

GuySmiley wrote:

For you @AW and others out on the road … rare EP release

GuySmiley. Evening fella. How is your health at present?

Thank you very much, very kind of you, a little music gift for the journey.

17 days of freewheeling , birds, plants and surfing from Cairns to Victoria. All the best. AW

Yet another from Neil about the road

and this

As fit as trout @AW, safe travels and looking forward to hearing back about your adventures

basesix wrote:

wax24 wrote:

Hey Juls. It doesn't end at the election.

In fact, it never ends, at all.

Whichever side loses will be representing Millions of folks who'll still believe as they do. Deep divisions will remain. Gradually, i hope, this cycle will drift in another direction. I may not live to see that or i may. There is no date to choose when you'll change how you digest this stuff. That change will be driven by internal forces, not external.

In other words, and more succinctly, if ya wanna stop diggin the hole, put down the shovel.

(No! You put yours down first!!)

glad you enjoyed the Omnific @wax, maybe I'll go see them in little ol' Cranker, get my prog on, I can possibly be in Adelaide then. Dunno if you can listen to this show @stu recommended that @sypkan, @juliang and I have enjoyed. But it is typical of the kind of casual conversation you would expect to have in an outback Aussie pub ; )

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/festival-of-dangerous-ideas-is-au…

Hey Base… sorry for extra delay with response to this vid….
i find that it does not merit response.
I find that it merits consideration, unpacking, self-discovery, ponderence, ownership, and all kindsa other stuff that is too beyond me to say.
I liked it.
I have gotten through 19 mins of it and have already put a few things in my pocket.
To “respond?”
i would do it nothing but injustice.
(that means i am really liking it and that i am melodramatic)

Juliang wrote:

@indo

So out of interest

What do you think about the abortions after birth allegations

And the immigrants eating everybody’s cats and dogs ? from Trump

This is what i think.

One of the biggest things Trump has going for him is his record on border control, and one of Kamala's weakness is her record on border control.

So Trump talking shit when he doesn't need to is just really dumb, instead of people focussing on the democrats failings and letting in something like 10 million illegal immigrants, they are taking about Trump saying immigrant's are eating peoples cats and dogs.

He turned what should be a big win, into a loss.

Do most immigrants eat cats and dogs, no of course not as most immigrants cultures dont eat cats and dogs.

Have immigrants eaten cats and dogs? even someones pet.

Id expect its happened, my Indo wife doesn't eat dog but her sister loves it, many cultures do.

In regards to abortion, same deal it didn't need to be said, he just needed to state the facts, that abortion is a state issue for each state to decide.

But he talked shit and gave her a win.

Post birth abortion is illegal in the USA and using the word executed sure aint a good or accurate description, but that said there is a bigger picture.

"More media claims infanticide isn’t happening. Here’s what the data says.

In a recent article in Teen Vogue, the author instructs her audience that there’s no such thing as “post-birth abortion,” arguing that infanticide is illegal in the United States and therefore any statement that it is happening is “categorically false.” A look at the facts, however, pokes holes in this common pro-abortion claim.

The fate of abortion survivors

Infanticide most commonly happens when infants are born alive following botched abortion procedures and are then given no medical care. According to data from the CDC, over the course of 12 years, over 100 infants have survived for at least a short time after a botched abortion. And from 1999-2023, over 220 infants were found to have survived abortion in just eight states.

What isn’t known is how many of these survivors received medical care, and how many were left to die."

Continued here https://www.liveaction.org/news/more-media-infanticide-data-says/

@Alfred Wallace
Have a good trip
Yeah I did the drive from Brisbane to
Cairns in a van a few years ago
Met my ex and the kids up there who caught the train up there
Great trip, there’s a lot of country North of Noosa , if you just keep driving
Checked out Bundy, Rocky, Mackay , Townsville etc
I kept checking the coast line but no swell of course
Beautiful coast anyway
Not the normal place a surfer might go
I stayed at some beaches , north of Cairns in my van for a while
Beautiful beaches and hinterland
and it keeps going up past Port Douglas
Through the Daintree etc
What struck me was the amount of coastline
that doesn’t get swell , and so is not seen by so many surfers!

Radar love , Jeremy Clarksons favourite
road trip music

^ haha my lawd gawd of open road goodness @seeds
- tasty lookin critter ;)

… keep those wheels spinning AW
- happy travels ;);)

;) These days the dog is not chasing the cat. They fleeing together, from the Haitians.

- entree only ;)

I know it’s CNN. Seems fair enough though.
Kamala did her job.

Remember when Shorten had all those policies and Morrison chose to have none whilst news corp spread the lies.

Script flipped.

@seeds
I was going to post that
“He had a reputation of being a thin skinned bully who beat up on younger kids,
but ran home in a fit of rage,
as soon as somebody stood up to him”

No incitement there ?
Der

No incitement there ?

Trump even lied to the rioters
When he said
“I’m gonna be right there with you “
Then watched it all on TV
Before sending a tweet telling them all to go home after 3 hours

haha my lawd gawd of open road goodness @seeds
- tasty lookin critter ;)

Haha
I like my steak medium to well cock eyed

Understandable
Donald Trump says he won't debate Kamala Harris again before the US presidential election - ABC News
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-13/trump-says-no-third-debate-again…

When I was a kid a Chinese restaurant opened up in the local mall and next thing there was a rumour that missing neighbourhood cats were ending up in the dim sims; just goes to show how little we’ve progressed

^^ at least Trump isn’t a war criminal …

Same here Guy re cat story.
The Aussie invention of the deep fried sui mai, dim sim.
I still prefer em steamed
https://www.agfg.com.au/article/dim-sims-unveiled-the-surprising-origin…

Kentucky Fried Cat

seeds wrote:

Understandable

Donald Trump says he won't debate Kamala Harris again before the US presidential election - ABC News

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-13/trump-says-no-third-debate-again…

He has noting to gain after that 3 v 1 puppet show.

South East Asians moved to the US , due 2 war in their countries .

Just left and moved to anther country .

They did take with them , traditions and beliefs .

In 1982 , the NY Times had no problem reporting that the Vietnam people were Poaching Squirrels , ducks and dogs in San Fran .

That in Utah , poaching of deer , porcupines , doves , woodpeckers , baby birds , eggs , fish and even Skunks , was happening .

It said that these people needed the Poaching Rules of the US explained .

That they were just doing , what they had always done .

They were using their Skills 2 get food .

I was in Bhutan and Chickens were running everywhere .

If I moved there , I LOVE roast chicken and would catch one .

The locals are Buddhist and would never kill an animal .

They are all like pets .

Pigs are a popular pet in the US .

Pigs being roasted on a spit , are popular 2 .

Amazing how History repeating itself , causes such Hysteria , nowadays .

Oh Burliegh stop it.
He shit the bed and you know it.
Can’t blame anyone else.

Except Pop that it isn’t happening.
An American woman with mental health issues was arrested for eating a cat in a town some 300k away from Springfield.
Now she also has to cope with itchy bum from the worms.

I think they gave Trump more than enough rope In that debate

Trumps pulling out of the next debate
because he won the last one
and doesn’t need to have another one
Classic twisted logic

Afternoon Jules

U have hit another nail on the head , with your post and summarised it perfectly .

Classic Twisted logic .

Edit

I note your late change Jules , u elected 2 remove an Election with a debate :) .

Classic Freud !

Yes the last debate wasn’t really fair for Trump
because they gave him way too much time
to keep saying dumb stuff

@ pop down
Yes i know
I just worked out how to edit then
Luckily
Thinking on the run !