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truebluebasher said: Who requested the most despicable reverse hostile cross national sickly song about world's #1 arsehole!
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blackers said: A song fer Sussan.
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lucky-al said: Likewise, freeride76. Will call in next time I'm down your way.
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seeds
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Oh shit yeah, I’ve been there a couple of times. Once on school camp and once as a adult 25 years younger than now.
Show us your photos
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Opti said “Anyone who reads your past comments will easily see why you’re not worth engaging in conversation.”
No numbn
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Where I live now is perfect…..but I’ve had better in the past.
Where in AUS would you live in you could take your pick?
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You're always going to run the risk of a big flatty busting you or biting you off on light gear and bait hooks.
I wou
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This guy has broken his back in 2 places plus other injuries but this horrific fall didn’t break his spirit, such a amaz
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Try answering this, andy.
Give it a shot why don’t you?
If you ever want to have a look the most recent article comments, but not see the forums, @andy-mac, you can drop
" https://www.swellnet.com/welcome? " into your address bar. Dunno why it works.
It has some jolly and colourful editors pics from '21, wotd, but no forum, which can be refreshing.
(Perhaps it shows pest-posters what SN would look like if the forums ever became too much of a pain to bother maintaining.) Anyway, have a good day mate.
Ok I will endeavour to put it in a very simplistic holistic view for you.
I believe all humans can be good or bad, and does not depend on their race, religion, political views, sexuality, gender or any other variable.
I also believe that good people are capable of doing 'bad' things and bad people are capable of doing 'good' things under certain circumstances, I came to understand this after reading books, not youtube videos.
I suggest you read some of Chris Hedges experiences in the Balkan wars in some of his books as he was there are what he wrote about the human condition in extreme circumstances.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60836825-the-greatest-evil-is-war
Cheers Basesix.
I was just wondering how and why I got sucked back into this.
Not doing me any good, will stick with watching the WA cams wishing I was there. :)
...you're a good egg andy-mac
- ignore the eggspurts ;)
& b6
...the ever vigilant observer, eye of the storm ;)
Cheers.
Bloody oath @basesix. Good call. Also the winki cam is a damn good change of scenery right now
Yew. And good egg agreed JF. Lotta good eggs here.
Just reinforces looking at the WA cams (newbies) and Winki, I live in the wrong state. Vicco too cold... haha
....there is, after all, like um a story ;)
- you gotta know ummm like the history and stuff
Coz the prophecy is at hand in the promised land and ummm
- take heed, beware, prepare.... take care ;);)
You didn’t get suckered back into it. You choose to comment and now you don’t like it you are playing “oh woe is me.”
ps, andy. I don't think you are anti semitic at all.
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/not-appropriate-anthony-alban…
I am NOT the "other" who guoted the 80% of gazans "support" hamas.
I said 85% of palestinians (gaza) voted for hamas in the elections in 2006(5?)...fact.
Thats where hamas intimitated, threatened, and murdered the opposition and after winning power took over ALL of the govt agency's and $$$.
18yrs of turning all of gaza into a siege fortress...18 freakin yrs and the ppl kept it secret?
Allso the week following 7/10 saudi arabia was going to recognise the state of israel as a legitamite nation and there was going to be an official ceremony to the world to see. which really pissed off ALL of the islamic neighbours.
Well hamas put a stop to that!!
;)
Jeweybell ;)
@ Seeds
Here is some more history for you, you know what Yahweh is?
It's kind of used as lord or god, but it actually has lots more history on how it came to mean that.
The Canaanites(long gone) are the true indigenous people of the Israel/Palestine area which they called Canna, they practiced a religion with many different gods kind of like Hinduism but more in the look and feel of Egyptian gods.
Yahweh was the deity of creation and over time the Israelites only worshiped this god which formed the basis of Judaism about 3,000 years ago(some claim longer) about 1,000 years before Christianity and 1,600 years before Islam.
So yes Judaism developed out of an ancient Indigenous Canaanite religion.
Hebrew was also the language of the Canaanites and is the language the ancient Jews used and Torah was written in and language Jews use today the only living indigenous language of Israel/Palestine.
However Jews who remained in Israel during Roman colonisation were forbidden from using Hebrew and lost the language and it was also lost by Jews who fled to Europe, other middle east countries, Africa and India. ( i guess all only using the languages of places they fled too)
However in the late 19th century one Jewish man who had moved back to Israel (at the time renamed by Romans Palestine) dedicated his life to bringing the language back learning it and making his family speak it and then the Jewish community to the point Hebrew was reborn.
Arabs/Palestinians on the other hand speak Arabic and practice Islam both from other area of the middle east brought in during the Turkish Ottoman empire period aboiut 7,000 BC
Both Israel population and Palestinian population have small amounts of Canaanite DNA, so neither are truly indigenous but as you can see the Jews have the closer connection to culture of the Canaanites through language and religion and some cultural aspects/practice's through religious ritual.
Geez Louise @Indo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs
hominid-splaining a thing?
again, what is this thread???
I’m happy if it becomes the Ren and Stimpy thread. Remember seeing the show for the first time at sunrise in the 90’s still tripping. Was an hilarious show for the time and so weird compared to earlier animation.
yeh, that show kinda died quick, like our hopes for a magical engaging future tho huh?
(have some influence, RK, mind yer sheep, maintain yer fences,
what the hell is this thing that is now a charged, topical, time capsule?)
- ummm yeth um more hithtory, yahweh or tha highway
;)
...so good, crushing on opti, roobarb, etc..
bali only for that one, Supa.. no can see..
Really ? I just shared from YouTube , always worked before . It was SNL beavis & butthead
If I ever went into business manufacturing bathroom scales it would be under the brand name "Yahweh".
haha, adam12 (not sure if this is the one Supa, but it's pretty funny)
#emojismakethingssomuchfunnier
Haha Adam12. In my case, too much!
Yep , that’s the one , weird that my link didn’t work. Excellent make up job on those two.
try the link again, that's weird..
The person who posted the one you linked had a geolocation block. No soup for us so to speak. It wouldn’t show at your end. V funny tho, thanks for sharing.
^^ @info again stridently defends Israel on the basis of recent land occupation while ignoring, no totally disrespectfully denying, 60,000 years of continuous guardianship of a continent by our indigenous nations. #whatsortoflowinfoarsewetwipeishe?
Was very funny. I recognise Ryan Gosling but who was the other guy?
I think it was the real Butt-Head.
You’re not shitting, with the ability to hold his lips like that!
Indo…if you look up ‘Abraham’ …’Hebrew Patriarch’ in the Britannica… you will see where the hebrews started. A very good read for you ….more accurate.
Yeah ive read and listened(mostly historical podcast) to as many views and accounts, including the bible related one's and will continue to do so pretty much daily, but with all respect just because its written in the bible doesn't mean its true, we dont even know if Abraham was a real person, we dont even know if many of the events in the bible are true mostly the events before the 3000BCE period we just dont have historical evidence or collaborating stories from other groups of people to support things, they are what you call mythology written by often more than one person over periods of time. (often long periods)
Much of it certainly isn't true like the ages of Adam (930 years), Noah (950 years), Abraham (175 years), Jacob (147 years), and even Moses (120 years) or rthe creation story or Noahs ark which isnt a good sign for other stories from that very early period.
However there is historical evidence for some of the events written latter that are said to have happened in the land of Israel or surrounding areas(not miracle's etc) but around places, kings, battles etc
For instance if Abraham was from Iraq and his children and ethic group Hebrew's/Israelites were originally seperate from other groups why didn't they use a language from Iraq or if they had been in Egypt so long why didn't they use an Egyptian based dialect? If they were slaves they would have had to have learnt it.
The historical evidence especially of language and roots of Judaism seems to suggest that they were most likely a group that emerge out of Canaanites that then became the main group over time not necessarily by force but the religious aspects, culture, lifestyle just became more attractive to the majority.
BTW. In regard to Abraham supposedly he was buried at the "Cave of the Patriarchs" in Hebron smack bang in the middle of the West Bank, this sight after the temple mount is the second most important site to Jews and is built with the same bricks as the second temple (some walls of which still stand)
And you guessed it again the Arab Muslim have tried to claim it as their own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs
Understanding all these sites etc is important, people really dont understand how important the West bank area is to Jews, its actually the most important area to them in every way, historically , culturally and religiously, the problem is when Arab muslims took over it also became the most important area to them too.
There is also countless other smaller temple remains and burial chamber's all over the land, some have even been discovered when new building are built etc
This link is an interesting read, obviously these are only opinions but there is some good points.
"Was Abraham a real person?"
https://www.quora.com/Was-Abraham-a-real-person
didn't answer the question..because that would be too hard for you to extend yourself.
about as irrelevant and generic an answer as could be given.
I will ask you again so you can ignore it
andy, do you think Palestinians have the ability to know right from wrong? are they able to know murdering someone for religious reasons is wrong? do they comprehend that the extermination of all jews is not a valid outcome for their future?
take note where I asked about Palestinians?
After watching this from another thread I would say.
No
No
No
Crikey Indo the Jews have a record of Abraham’s whole family tree so he was real.
They were very serious and educated record keepers.
Copies of those same records were also found in your Dead Sea caves you were stoked on.
He left Ur on his own to travel and when in Canaan God said he would inherit this land one day and that day came and became the land of Israel which was all of todays Palestine. The so called Palestinians who really are just Gazans could easily work with Israel but are subject to their Islamic religions mission statement which is to wipe out the Jews.
So while Iran is pulling their strings there can never be peace. It’s a real shame because Israel help all their Arab neighbours who are friendly to them.
History shows their ancestors, the sons of Abraham were step brothers.
One becoming the Jewish race and the other the Arab.
They should be on the same page religiously but Mohammad took many Arabs off track to his new modern religion and created the strong division for personal gain.
It wasn't hard for him to find his jihad suicide squad who would rather die than not have the money, power and women that he promised them and so it goes on to this day.
Read my response, Palestinians are humans.
Your question is answered.
Now run along and enjoy your weekend.
"Crikey Indo the Jews have a record of Abraham’s whole family tree so he was real.
They were very serious and educated record keepers.
Copies of those same records were also found in your Dead Sea caves you were stoked on.
He left Ur on his own to travel and when in Canaan God said he would inherit this land one day and that day came and became the land of Israel which was all of todays Palestine. The so called Palestinians who really are just Gazans could easily work with Israel but are subject to their Islamic religions mission statement which is to wipe out the Jews.
So while Iran is pulling their strings there can never be peace. It’s a real shame because Israel help all their Arab neighbours who are friendly to them.
History shows their ancestors, the sons of Abraham were step brothers.
One becoming the Jewish race and the other the Arab.
They should be on the same page religiously but Mohammad took many Arabs off track to his new modern religion and created the strong division for personal gain.
It wasn't hard for him to find his jihad suicide squad who would rather die than not have the money, power and women that he promised them and so it goes on to this day."
;);)
You gotta love the day when lowlife info tries to school SN’s resident biblical scholar (cough cough) on the history. Nice, opti now knows the “oh what a feeling”
no you didn't answer. you brought it down to be about individual humans having the ability/capability to do bad things.
I asked about Palestinians as a group, as an ethnonational group.
That Dr Phil video was very good. A must watch if you haven’t already.
C’mon RK. It’s a stupid “gotcha” question that serves no purpose and accusing someone of cowardice for not playing a stupid game is schoolyard stupidity.