Ah that's fucked Roady. I'm a fellow traveller on that path, hang in there. Ignore the ignorant.

Jelly Flater wrote:

Not sure where anybody indicated having a problem with alcohol ;)

What things sound like are often nothing to do with what you want to interpret / hear ;);)

Next time there is an opportunity, choose to abstain (through choice and not mere problem solving) and try and observe ppl drinking in ‘moderation’…

Australian ‘moderation’ often involves a display of exaggerated self inflating heroics that are highlighted with bullshit tales of imagined brotherhood and romantic conquest.

Alcohol - with all its imagined ability to help create genuine social interaction - is a drug for fools with low self esteem ;)

Our culture celebrates and thrives on alcohol. People will be fuckwits regardless of it being consumed or not - but if you wish to see if there is something out there to further diminish your decision making capabilities - then alcohol is for you !

Consider the amount of damage alcohol reaps on society - drink driving, domestic violence, sexual assault - just to name a few…

Alcohol is not the cause - it is the conduit - and alcoholism is an absolute beast of burden ;);)

Consider life without it…

If that is gonna be a problem then you have the problem ;)

But…

‘She’ll be right mate’ ;)

I assume you’re talking to me?

You’ve just described people that consume alcohol in the exact opposite way I do.

“ Next time there is an opportunity, choose to abstain (through choice and not mere problem solving) and try and observe ppl drinking in ‘moderation’…”

I do that from Monday to Thursday, there’s beer in the beer fridge those days, and I choose to abstain.

Talk about interpreting things the way you want…. ;)

blackers wrote:

Ah that's fucked Roady. I'm a fellow traveller on that path, hang in there. Ignore the ignorant.

Thanks, blackers. It’s a tough road, all the best to you.

My wife is over it all now, just 3 monthly checks and a few blood tests to check various levels.

She is alive today because of big pharma and the very generous first world health system we have in Australia.

Yeah that sucks, all the best blackers

Cheers guys.

I second that to you Blackers and also for the future improved health of Roadkill's partner.

Roadkill wrote:

My wife was diagnosed with cancer 2 days after running her 8th marathon. She ate healthy, didn’t really drink, ate red meat once a month or less…eats vegetables and fruit, eats beans, pulses avoided high fats salts and sugars. Starts the day with a green smoothie. Most of her diet is organic.

She must have done something wrong?

burleigh, can you post up your green smoothie recipes and I can show her where she went wrong.

You've taken my point out of context again. What i was saying is our culture rewards drinking poison for hard work, where instead we should be nourishing our body to recharge.

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

My wife was diagnosed with cancer 2 days after running her 8th marathon. She ate healthy, didn’t really drink, ate red meat once a month or less…eats vegetables and fruit, eats beans, pulses avoided high fats salts and sugars. Starts the day with a green smoothie. Most of her diet is organic.

She must have done something wrong?

burleigh, can you post up your green smoothie recipes and I can show her where she went wrong.

You've taken my point out of context again. What i was saying is our culture rewards drinking poison for hard work, where instead we should be nourishing our body to recharge.

On numerous occasions you have blamed health outcomes on diet. You have generalised and advocated diet as being a simple factor for a healthy life. It does not work like that.

Roadkill wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

My wife was diagnosed with cancer 2 days after running her 8th marathon. She ate healthy, didn’t really drink, ate red meat once a month or less…eats vegetables and fruit, eats beans, pulses avoided high fats salts and sugars. Starts the day with a green smoothie. Most of her diet is organic.

She must have done something wrong?

burleigh, can you post up your green smoothie recipes and I can show her where she went wrong.

You've taken my point out of context again. What i was saying is our culture rewards drinking poison for hard work, where instead we should be nourishing our body to recharge.

On numerous occasions you have blamed health outcomes on diet. You have generalised and advocated diet as being a simple factor for a healthy life. It does not work like that.

You thinking diet is not a simple factor for a healthy life is extremely concerning but not surprising.

I’m obviously not commenting on your wife’s cancer because I don’t know you or her, but I’m glad she’s doing ok.

goofyfoot wrote:

It sounds like all you guys had a problem with alcohol and didn’t know when to say no so you had to go completely cold turkey sober.

Nothing wrong with having a beer in moderation.

My drinking rules are no alcohol from Monday to Thursday at all, then if I feel like a beer Friday, Saturday or Sunday I’m allowed. Doesn’t mean I have to drink or always drink on those days, just means I’m not allowed to drink on the other days

Nope, you’re wrong goofy, I just decided that it was no longer for me and I have seen what it does to my family member.
Seeming you have days when you’re not allowed to drink maybe you have the issues with alcohol.

Burliegh are you vegan? You have that holier than though attitude.

burleigh wrote:

goofyfoot wrote:

It sounds like all you guys had a problem with alcohol and didn’t know when to say no so you had to go completely cold turkey sober.

Nothing wrong with having a beer in moderation.

My drinking rules are no alcohol from Monday to Thursday at all, then if I feel like a beer Friday, Saturday or Sunday I’m allowed. Doesn’t mean I have to drink or always drink on those days, just means I’m not allowed to drink on the other days

Nope, you’re wrong goofy, I just decided that it was no longer for me and I have seen what it does to my family member.

Seeming you have days when you’re not allowed to drink maybe you have the issues with alcohol.

Really clutching at straws there burls.
If people choose to live an alcohol free life that’s unreal, just don’t preach about it and try to portray people who enjoy a drink responsibly as second rate citizens.

It’s no different than a vegan or vego thinking they are superior to people who eat meat. That’s great you’ve decided to give meat a miss, but lots of people enjoy it. So STFU about it.
Last bit not necessarily aimed at you.

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

My wife was diagnosed with cancer 2 days after running her 8th marathon. She ate healthy, didn’t really drink, ate red meat once a month or less…eats vegetables and fruit, eats beans, pulses avoided high fats salts and sugars. Starts the day with a green smoothie. Most of her diet is organic.

She must have done something wrong?

burleigh, can you post up your green smoothie recipes and I can show her where she went wrong.

You've taken my point out of context again. What i was saying is our culture rewards drinking poison for hard work, where instead we should be nourishing our body to recharge.

On numerous occasions you have blamed health outcomes on diet. You have generalised and advocated diet as being a simple factor for a healthy life. It does not work like that.

You thinking diet is not a simple factor for a healthy life is extremely concerning but not surprising.

I’m obviously not commenting on your wife’s cancer because I don’t know you or her, but I’m glad she’s doing ok.

Diet is hugely important as a contribution to a healthy life, however diet is just 1 factor, as is exercise.

Roadkill wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

My wife was diagnosed with cancer 2 days after running her 8th marathon. She ate healthy, didn’t really drink, ate red meat once a month or less…eats vegetables and fruit, eats beans, pulses avoided high fats salts and sugars. Starts the day with a green smoothie. Most of her diet is organic.

She must have done something wrong?

burleigh, can you post up your green smoothie recipes and I can show her where she went wrong.

You've taken my point out of context again. What i was saying is our culture rewards drinking poison for hard work, where instead we should be nourishing our body to recharge.

On numerous occasions you have blamed health outcomes on diet. You have generalised and advocated diet as being a simple factor for a healthy life. It does not work like that.

You thinking diet is not a simple factor for a healthy life is extremely concerning but not surprising.

I’m obviously not commenting on your wife’s cancer because I don’t know you or her, but I’m glad she’s doing ok.

Diet is hugely important as a contribution to a healthy life, however diet is just 1 factor, as is exercise.

I agree. Our lives are so consumed with chemicals even eating a healthy diet and exercise we are still exposed every singe day.
Sunscreen, detergent used to wash your dishes, washing machine detergent, whatever the fuck they spray cheap vegetables with, but don't let that stop people making healthy choices every single day.

Take control of your health, surf longer, get more waves and have more fun.

seeds wrote:

Burliegh are you vegan? You have that holier than though attitude.

huh?

goofyfoot wrote:

burleigh wrote:

goofyfoot wrote:

It sounds like all you guys had a problem with alcohol and didn’t know when to say no so you had to go completely cold turkey sober.

Nothing wrong with having a beer in moderation.

My drinking rules are no alcohol from Monday to Thursday at all, then if I feel like a beer Friday, Saturday or Sunday I’m allowed. Doesn’t mean I have to drink or always drink on those days, just means I’m not allowed to drink on the other days

Nope, you’re wrong goofy, I just decided that it was no longer for me and I have seen what it does to my family member.

Seeming you have days when you’re not allowed to drink maybe you have the issues with alcohol.

Really clutching at straws there burls.

If people choose to live an alcohol free life that’s unreal, just don’t preach about it and try to portray people who enjoy a drink responsibly as second rate citizens.

It’s no different than a vegan or vego thinking they are superior to people who eat meat. That’s great you’ve decided to give meat a miss, but lots of people enjoy it. So STFU about it.

Last bit not necessarily aimed at you.

This is a health, fitness and wellbeing page. Im saying what gave me more energy and love for life. Sad that you feel the need to knock someone down for having a more positive outlook on life without alcohol.

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

burleigh wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

My wife was diagnosed with cancer 2 days after running her 8th marathon. She ate healthy, didn’t really drink, ate red meat once a month or less…eats vegetables and fruit, eats beans, pulses avoided high fats salts and sugars. Starts the day with a green smoothie. Most of her diet is organic.

She must have done something wrong?

burleigh, can you post up your green smoothie recipes and I can show her where she went wrong.

You've taken my point out of context again. What i was saying is our culture rewards drinking poison for hard work, where instead we should be nourishing our body to recharge.

On numerous occasions you have blamed health outcomes on diet. You have generalised and advocated diet as being a simple factor for a healthy life. It does not work like that.

You thinking diet is not a simple factor for a healthy life is extremely concerning but not surprising.

I’m obviously not commenting on your wife’s cancer because I don’t know you or her, but I’m glad she’s doing ok.

Diet is hugely important as a contribution to a healthy life, however diet is just 1 factor, as is exercise.

I agree. Our lives are so consumed with chemicals even eating a healthy diet and exercise we are still exposed every singe day.

Sunscreen, detergent used to wash your dishes, washing machine detergent, whatever the fuck they spray cheap vegetables with, but don't let that stop people making healthy choices every single day.

Take control of your health, surf longer, get more waves and have more fun.

You've got the aura of a born-again Burleigh.

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groundswell wrote:

Personally my goal is to paddle against the strong currents in the surf spots here faster and for longer, get to my feet quicker in steep waves and get my libido a bit better.

I dont know if this will get me banned but back in my late teens i had a problem of not lasting longer than five minutes in the sack.

This may be obvious to other people on here and they may have not have had that trouble but what got me out of that rut was a "wank and strangle".

Every time you feel it coming on have a strangle of your knob, wait a few seconds and do this until a wank lasts at least fifteen minutes. After a while if you do it a lot you can last an hour in the sack.

You can also control when you finish so finish at the same time as them. Also go again a few times if your girls horny enough.Dont have much libido at the moment though and look at porn about once every three months.

As for surf fitness, well im struggling with that but ill try to get out there every time my local b or c grade wave breaks in clean conditions. A good diet, exercise and surfing every time it breaks, paddling against the strong current should get me back to surfing ok.

Huberman is top. I also follow David Sinclair since his book Lifespan came out.

https://panoramacharter.ltd/
https://19216811.bid/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-18/what-athletes-eat-jessica-hull-k…

udo wrote:

Cool maybe a cold shower will suffice instead of bath as i dont have a bath here.

Since giving up fat causing meds and other side effects libido is back, lost a lot of weight and had a hot temporary gf on holidays here but ran out of energy in shoulders after 15 minutes and needed a quick break before another session of passion for eachother.
Anyway getting healthy again, 2-4 beers max or glasses of wine a night, 20-50 situps a day, a walk to jakes and back every second morning to check it, eating mostly fish such as the delicious Coral Trout, red throat or mullaway, sometimes wingdings (spicy chicken wings) avocado on toasted multigrain or brown bread, no bacon, just eggs for late night snack or breaky..lots of laps in my pool each day over 30 degrees...Missed a day my fickle fave lid wave broke at 3 foot but getting into it again so should be surfing good waves on a standup or lid over 3 foot soon if keep exercising..

heard when occy made his comeback he was doing 1000 situps a day plus other exercises so that made me do up to 500 a day when i was in perth and made a huge difference to surfing ability on slabbier bigger days.Especially north point on a step up quad on a day i would usually ride a lid on 6-10 foot north point, i didnt make one pit but went ok on the takeoff..Just bad and always was bad at pumping in the tube on backhand.Meanwhile Jay Davies was not being greedy letting others get waves but toying with it and launching air tricks on the end after a long pit.

Groundy have you dropped your Psych Meds ?

depot clopixol yes but still on olanzopine a few nights a week.

Your Diet sounds really good Groundy Top Stuff...Drop the bought Wing Dings and Grill your own and Spice them up...And as you know to well No Mull.
Have you Sold Off any Boards ?

Well done Groundy! You are on the right path.

Hey Groundy, good luck with all that.

Everything and anything that helps is worth pursuing.

Hey Groundy, good luck with all that.

Everything and anything that helps is worth pursuing.

Thanks fellas, yep no mull Udo, i agree. Sold a banks 5'11 fish, keeping the others except 7'2 fun board NSP if i dont sell it will give to someone around here if they want it..However last time i gave away a good stretch 6'3 to a grommy (free) he took it into my pool and dings up the nose and never took it for a surf.

Intermittent fasting improves mental and physical health like you wouldn’t believe.

groundswell wrote:

udo wrote:

Cool maybe a cold shower will suffice instead of bath as i dont have a bath here.

Since

giving up fat causing meds and other side effects libido is back, lost a lot of weight and had a hot temporary gf on holidays here but ran out of energy in shoulders after 15 minutes and needed a quick break before another session of passion for eachother.

Anyway getting healthy again, 2-4 beers max or glasses of wine a night, 20-50 situps a day, a walk to jakes and back every second morning to check it, eating mostly fish such as the delicious Coral Trout, red throat or mullaway, sometimes wingdings (spicy chicken wings) avocado on toasted multigrain or brown bread, no bacon, just eggs for late night snack or breaky..lots of laps in my pool each day over 30 degrees...Missed a day my fickle fave lid wave broke at 3 foot but getting into it again so should be surfing good waves on a standup or lid over 3 foot soon if keep exercising..

heard when occy made his comeback he was doing 1000 situps a day plus other exercises so that made me do up to 500 a day when i was in perth and made a huge difference to surfing ability on slabbier bigger days.Especially north point on a step up quad on a day i would usually ride a lid on 6-10 foot north point, i didnt make one pit but went ok on the takeoff..Just bad and always was bad at pumping in the tube on backhand.Meanwhile Jay Davies was not being greedy letting others get waves but toying with it and launching air tricks on the end after a long pit.

Groundswell. Keep at it. Totally eliminate processed food, fuck those wing dings off for good, eat as much fresh food as possible, especially greens.

Remember what Steve Jobs of Apple acclaim once said;

“Food is your medicine, but if you eat shit food, medicine will soon become your food” AW.

groundswell wrote:

Since giving up fat causing meds and other side effects libido is back, lost a lot of weight and had a hot temporary gf on holidays here but ran out of energy in shoulders after 15 minutes and needed a quick break before another session of passion for eachother.

Onya Groundy. Good to see you're getting back in the saddle. As for the shoulders, you might want to ditch the sit ups for push ups.
Might also want to get a few golfing lessons. I'd hate to see you up for a hip replacement, ;)
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pushups probably way better for getting to feet than situps for sure now that you mention it.

And Alfred will try to give up wing dings also spring roll Chinese cocktail mix i didn't earlier mention but love them, the taste..No good for trying to get fit tho.

Where im moving lots of fresh veggies available, not here tho.

Get a cheap ab wheel and try do it in good form. They cost practically nothing. Save way more time than all those situps.

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This might help with your next conquest GS.
No 2 is a winner. Divebomb pushups. :)
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lostdoggy wrote:

Get a cheap ab wheel and try do it in good form. They cost practically nothing. Save way more time than all those situps.

Nice will look into those after a move.

Supa that looks good just not sure ice baths are for me yet.

Tube shooter that divebomb pushup looks like he has a 72 inch banana shaped willy lol, (3 inches longer than mine :) nah joking looks good..Wasn't only shoulders i ran out of energy in pretty sure it was all over even though i dont smoke ciggies any more.Just not 28 and surfing everyday any more so not fit even with swimming in the pool. At 28 years old was a great time, never gained weight whatever i ate but lost weight on a few nights of partying quick.

Belly seems to be the last place fat comes off, no matter what you do.

Pull ups are good too GS, can also lift the knees to get more abs into it - got any of those outdoor/park fitness stations nearby? Or could probably set up a bar at home.

Whaahaa just saw this on the page before clicking on the thread and thought oh no GS is now incontinent

Jono wrote:

Pull ups are good too GS, can also lift the knees to get more abs into it - got any of those outdoor/park fitness stations nearby? Or could probably set up a bar at home.

Good idean and thanks. Have a chin up bar, very good one at my mums house, which ill be staying at for a month soon, but no outdoor gyms around here, just skateparks motorbike tracks and tennis courts.
Have a home gym set but selling it as im moving.

seeds wrote:

Whaahaa just saw this on the page before clicking on the thread and thought oh no GS is now incontinent

Not incontinent seeds except i only wee in my wetty to wash the poo away after shitting myself when surf gets out of control.

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Thanks Udo, those look good. Last one is hard yakka and making do with what they have but sure pays off.

Stay off the turps and save a fortune! Alcohol is a mycotoxin.

Practice fasting a few times a year at least and don't eat after 1800hrs.
Chew your food thoroughly. Your stomach doesn't have teeth. Eat w/out tv et al. It is only when the stomach is empty that certain parts of the system go into detox and maintenance and cleansing mode.

Sugar - The Bitter Truth

1 1/2hr of truth about sugar
and the book Pure White and Deadly is a must read if you want to be motivated to look after yourself. Download it from the internet archive here-
https://archive.org/details/PureWhiteAndDeadly19721986ocr/mode/2up
David Gillespie's work is also excellent
https://davidgillespie.org/

What you do is just as important as what you eat and what you don't eat. Variety in our diet is crucial. And don't drink a litre of celery juice every morning cos some celebrity does it. Eat what is right and good for you. I once nearly died from constipation after i read that blueberries are good for your brain. They are also good for stopping diarrohea, which makes them excellent for massive constipation if you eat a punnet a day for weeks on end ...

But take it easy as you cleanse your diet. I know of a bloke who drank a litre and a half of water at a health retreat after not drinking pure water for many years. He went into cardiac arrest as his body just did not know what to do with pure water. He was a huge coffee drinker. Coffee is very acidic and is the cause of much haliotosis, tension and aggro in the world. Cancer loves acidity from any source, be it meat, coffee or sugar.
The China Study proved for all time that a meat-focused diet causes cancer-
https://nutritionstudies.org/the-china-study/
Gesundheit!

Saint Paddy’s day health tips

Those vids are great Udo. I liked the last one the most..Very informative.

Doing some research and had a feeling diazapam use might have ruined my surfing ability and desire to get into my wetty in cold mornings etc in kalbarri (desert easterlies are usually COLD there)..Looking back its whenever ive been using diazapam or valium 5mg to 10 mg a day sometimes drinking alcohol too, but last indo trip in six months of staying there i drank about 3-5 beers total.Also about two 500ml bottles of Arak, So it wasnt alcohol and my muscle memory really wasn't there later on in the trip when a girl who worked in an apotek or pharmacy hooked me up with valium- it was then that i would forget how to correctly land a drop on a standup.

I mean like later on in the last month i would lean forward but then have too much front foot and at a very sucky wave like ss (which is named for being a sucky wave) you need back foot pressure on landing a drop or the nose will dive on landing..Did some research lately and it seems either olanzapine and valium use, occasionally abuse of valium (15-20mg valium on occasion with a lot of alcohol in Aus).
Anyway it seems they might hinder muscles and coordination and muscle memory.

Seems very coincidental that the times i gave valium up and olanzapine up seemed to be times where i surfed alright and was keen, with better muscle memory..The "drop" in surfing isn't something you think about when its happening, but learning from mistakes and thinking about it at home and then acting on those lessons next time its tubing..Reacting like reacting to a person running out in front of your car..Its not something you think about turning around them and braking..

Anyway i am guilty of over drinking and overdoing e's and coke in my past sometimes but still feel ok besides paranoia and can never touch cannabis, which is why i might have grown it years ago- to make money to go surfing and pay off my car, not smoking it all..if im not taking clopixol and smoke cannabis, it is just is an enduring 4 hours of depression and paranoia for people like me.Some of my long said good bye friends loved it tho in 90's /2000's. Some schizo people can smoke it but i could only handle it if taking clopixol or could handle small amounts at 16 years or so when it was all fun and games and laughing for a few hours at anything....Now its just a black dog of bad vibes.

I don't know if its wrong to have made small amounts of money by growing small amounts of weed to feed a surf and travel lifestyle but its what i "might" have done and feel a little guilty about it, "possibly" selling or trading with people the same drug that might send a small amount of people people nuts, but it is what it is.

Here is some websites on sports and both olanzapine and diazapam (valium)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9810623/

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=olanzapine+and+muscl…

I agree with A lot of the people posting like Jelly Flater that alcohol abuse in Australia is too respected..Most good surfers i know do it in moderation though like even one well known pro in the Barri sometimes drinks and was sponsored by a bourbon company but if he drank as much as a full on piss head like i sometimes was he wouldn't be as good a surfer or fisherman as he is.

Pot or THC and CBD use on the other hand if you're not predisposed to a mental illness like schizophrenia or bipolar or suffer anxiety, than it seems pretty harmless compared to alcohol abuse.And no hangover.
Much better past time i reckon than drinking in excess often.

One of my best friends in barri tried to help me give alcohol up and did for about 10-11 months and lost beer gut and surfed a bit but fell off or back on the wagon or however the saying goes.

Sorry to bum everyone out and this is a "wellbeing" thread but i dont know if i will ever surf waves like shark island my fave bodyboarding wave again.Maybe on a lid but certainly not waves like i used to ride. Last time i surfed a secret spot on a fish i stood up on one wave the whole day. Lid is natural and easy for me but standing up isn't like riding a bike imo.
It takes work and dedication to get half way to where you might have been 13 or 20 years ago.

Got to give up the olanzapine and valium too.

Groundy good on ya mate your onto it...you know what Your about
Dont worry about selling a bit of Herb in your old days thats nothing
and you knocked the Piss on the Head for nearly 12 months before so thats no problem
You can do it Again !!
How's your Diet these Days....give us a Rundown....

I doubt you will ever be able to come off the Olanzapine....thats No worries mate thats what keeps you Well...and you Know that..