Someone earlier said the 'locals' have lost control. Is the whole Goldie like this now? Burleigh? The Alley? When I was up there, pre-Superbank, Kirra was the out of control spot. No rules. Nowhere else.

But a bit different even, as the sweep and general heaviness of the actual wave kind of kept a modicum of something resembling 'normal' etiquette still in evidence. Kind of. Burnings but not too blatantly rude. Anyway, I'm stoked I got the opportunity to stuff a little wicky-wack snowy prick who tried to snake me in a very un-subtle manner one time. Timed the fade and subsequent flick off to perfection. Future champ Snowy on the run-around. Got a few looks from his 'protectors', maybe a comment. A terse "fuck off" in reply sufficed. Hell, no time for chit-chat, there was ridiculous paddling to hold some sort of position to do.

Anyway, it's Queensland. It's full of the cuntiest of cunts in surfing. Apart from Sydney of course. Un-Australian all. I blame rugby. League.

classic TT , you dropped in and burned the guy on the inside , bloody thugby lovers , makes you want to join the locals and keep burning the blowies!

Ah, the Goldie. A cruel mistress.

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@Sharkmaaaaan, musta missed this bit about my brush with future fame:

" who tried to snake me in a very un-subtle manner".

Paddling up the inside, my inside, last second when wave arrives, well, you get what you get. Prodigy worship, be damned.

The Goldie. Fulla cunts one day, fulla cunts the next. Older and cuntier. You a Bronco or a Titan, Sharkmaaaaaaan?

hey TT , your run in with the prodigy brings up the point of "snaking" as part of the rules of surfing , I wonder when snaking became part of our most reverent surf rules?

Gold coast Suns , I follow aussie rules not pommy punishment game!

Maaaan, snaking has been around since the inside surfer having the right of way unwritten law. It's a sneaky (snakey) way of claiming that inside surfer right of way.

The better you are or the more tuned in you are (being a local), the deeper you go. Taking off behind the rock at Snapper or timing the sweep at Kirra. Let alone the paddle-power of the "this is all I do every day" brigade.

Why the "fuck it" shortcuts? Using jet-skis at Kirra when it started to show itself again only got kiboshed by the threat of the law, yeah?

Laziness and the old "I'm alright, Jack" ain't alright. In the water or on land. It fucks us up. It plays into the bullshit that "there is no such thing as society". The fucking evil cunt that came up with that philosophical take on life has a lot to fucken answer for.

I'm more prone to "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

The Suns, hey? Born n bred bender, then?

blindboy wrote:

lostdoggy wrote:

That's how I play it BB but don't you think it's fair enough to try and change the culture of giving these pros a free ride in spite of their shit behaviour?

Can't see any realistic way of tackling the issue and while I understand the frustration there is something to be said for the best surfers getting the best waves. If people want to take it in turns they should play tennis. Surfing has always had that aggro edge, it is not really an egalitarian activity. If you paddle out on a perfect day at one of the most intensely crowded spots on Earth then you need to be able to cut it one way or another. I have a mate who is nowhere near elite standard but who surfs there all the time and loves it. He keeps his expectations low and is just stoked when he does grab a good one. If you think you are entitled to better than that then you need to be able to play at that level and most of us simply can't...well not anymore!

So BB the best advice take an old elephant gun out there and mow em down, drop in, ditch your board as a tombstone to clear a path...on everyone including the pros. Do they drop in on each other? Do they carry on like this elsewhere? If it is truly as aggro as you say then just drop in on them as well and they wouldn't care?

This topic highlights the insidious bias of surf industry publications - not one has taken up the issue of professional surfers taking waves by dropping in ... In fact, they are more so promoting it by publishing videos and photos of the professional on a wave taken by such an act.

Just an idea - why don't we, the concerned recreational surfers, come up with a phrase that puts this "drop in and snake" behaviour into a negative spin, sort of like how a "king hit" became a " cowards punch"? That way, the mainstream media will have something they can grasp onto and report.

All we, the concerned recreational surfer, then has to do is bombard the mainstream media with examples of professional surfers doing it...

WSL will act then. So too the sponsors.

Just needs a catchy, negative, all encompassing term or slogan that mainstream media can grasp.

wingnut2443 wrote:

This topic highlights the insidious bias of surf industry publications - not one has taken up the issue of professional surfers taking waves by dropping in ... In fact, they are more so promoting it by publishing videos and photos of the professional on a wave taken by such an act.

Just an idea - why don't we, the concerned recreational surfers, come up with a phrase that puts this "drop in and snake" behaviour into a negative spin, sort of like how a "king hit" became a " cowards punch"? That way, the mainstream media will have something they can grasp onto and report.

All we, the concerned recreational surfer, then has to do is bombard the mainstream media with examples of professional surfers doing it...

WSL will act then. So too the sponsors.

Just needs a catchy, negative, all encompassing term or slogan that mainstream media can grasp.

The beauty of social media and the internet age is people have the ability to create their own discussion and have viewpoints shared to the masses much like is happening here. The problem is bullying and internet trolls who use such platforms as a way to spew vile abuse towards anyone they have an agenda against.

It wouldn't be hard for a motivated person to create their own web platform to share their views on situations like whats happening on the Goldy with video footage to back it up. So long as it doesn't become slanderous and is correctly moderated to avoid litigation there shouldn't be a problem.

Can picture the video now " The following drop ins are bought to you by surfers sponsored by Rip Curl, Billabong and The Hueys" a bit of satire wouldn't hurt the cause.

wingnut2443 wrote:

This topic highlights the insidious bias of surf industry publications - not one has taken up the issue of professional surfers taking waves by dropping in ... In fact, they are more so promoting it by publishing videos and photos of the professional on a wave taken by such an act.

Just an idea - why don't we, the concerned recreational surfers, come up with a phrase that puts this "drop in and snake" behaviour into a negative spin, sort of like how a "king hit" became a " cowards punch"? That way, the mainstream media will have something they can grasp onto and report.

All we, the concerned recreational surfer, then has to do is bombard the mainstream media with examples of professional surfers doing it...

WSL will act then. So too the sponsors.

Just needs a catchy, negative, all encompassing term or slogan that mainstream media can grasp.

True…it won't change until they do or media of some kind bring focus to the issue, it will only be when the sponsors and WSL look bad and money is involved that professional surfers will stop acting like unprofessional greedy kooks.

Edit: 100% agree Wharfjunkie

Wharfjunkie wrote:

wingnut2443 wrote:

This topic highlights the insidious bias of surf industry publications - not one has taken up the issue of professional surfers taking waves by dropping in ... In fact, they are more so promoting it by publishing videos and photos of the professional on a wave taken by such an act.

Just an idea - why don't we, the concerned recreational surfers, come up with a phrase that puts this "drop in and snake" behaviour into a negative spin, sort of like how a "king hit" became a " cowards punch"? That way, the mainstream media will have something they can grasp onto and report.

All we, the concerned recreational surfer, then has to do is bombard the mainstream media with examples of professional surfers doing it...

WSL will act then. So too the sponsors.

Just needs a catchy, negative, all encompassing term or slogan that mainstream media can grasp.

The beauty of social media and the internet age is people have the ability to create their own discussion and have viewpoints shared to the masses much like is happening here. The problem is bullying and internet trolls who use such platforms as a way to spew vile abuse towards anyone they have an agenda against.

It wouldn't be hard for a motivated person to create their own web platform to share their views on situations like whats happening on the Goldy with video footage to back it up. So long as it doesn't become slanderous and is correctly moderated to avoid litigation there shouldn't be a problem.

Can picture the video now " The following drop ins are bought to you by surfers sponsored by Rip Curl, Billabong and The Hueys" a bit of satire wouldn't hurt the cause.

For those more social media savvy than myself , just create a facebook or instagram account called
" Only Shit , Drops In " along the lines of a few pages i've heard of including Crap Solar etc . This way the culprits can be tagged directly to their accounts ..... enough people do it they will get sick of blocking and either leave these " important " self absessed mediums or more easily stop acting like Fuckwits .

Not sure you will get much traction with that approach. What you really need is your classic media beat up, you know "World Champ Runs Over Cancer Victim" " Bushfire Hero Crippled By Surf Pro" "Snapper Mafia Assault One Armed, Visually Handicapped Teen"

Forget the media just go the beat-up first. To paraphrase Marcellus Wallace (note: only if you don't like getting your hands dirty), get a coupla hard, meth pipe-hittin', erm buggers, who'll go to work on the pro homies with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. Get medieval on their asses.

The Goldie has got a fine history of pro-types getting their asses handed to them. Chuck in the meth these days for that little bit of extra 'moral panic', and then make sure the reason is widely disseminated that they got gotten because of their cuntish behaviour in the water and voila! problem solved. Courier Mail and any Goldie rag would be all over it, let alone the corporate telly news, ACA etc.

We can crowd-fund this comrades!

Ummm, a tad extreme? Is Nat still Nat these days?

Not at all Talking Turkey

Now ya talking turkey,na not extreme at all and very creative plus your employing the unemployable,and extend it like in surf lifesaving where meth heads roam the beaches and anyone seen dropping in gets beaten to an inch of there life!Its a win win situation......be funny watching Fanning or Parko hold up there trophy with two black eyes and no teeth.......awesome.

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Here's an idea. Let's stop using the phrase burn, fade, snake, drop-in. They all sound like they require an element of skill

I faded a gronkesque Seppo today in an act of frontier justice.

Took most of my meagre abilities not to go under his fins.

Wowee, did you take it to the beach? Again?

Negative.

Sorted out in a kangaroo court in the line up.

The perpetrator ( Seppo ) was quietly accused of and proven to be , based on evidence and eyewitness statements ( supplied by myself ) an irritant of the highest order and suffered a court imposed ten minutes of silent self reflection where upon he may learn from his indiscretions and emerge , chrysalis like, a better person and a more enjoyable surfer to share a line up with.

Every one left with a smile on their face.

Except maybe the Seppo, but who gives a fuck, he was a punish to be around.

HUMAN NATURE sux......I imagine we've all had this and other variations of this shit happen before.I have
been so deep at a particular point that I've had to keep my inside foot out , pushing off the rocks ,in the spot , undeniably "inside" everyone....I'm on the next one for sure . . . .nup..........BURNED again.

Football players get fined $$$$$ for bad behaviour. Maybe guilty PRO surfers should hand out new surf attire to their victims from their respective sponsors . I don't know of a quick solution. IMO it is in our basic human instincts.

However I know one thing. Growing up at Maroubra , a certain group of individuals became quite infamous . They did this by hangin'tough and rolling anyone in their path. The usual tactics of pack mentality engaged . Some of them knew what they were doing , others were followers , some did'nt and still don't even surf. But there was one who made a habit of burning me regularly . At the end of that period before fate brushed them aside , I would see my nemisis paddling out and I would move to another peak to avoid the situation.
15 years on , he ain't so fit anymore , so now its my turn ! I don't drop in on just any wave ...I wait for some of the best set waves during the session . Its so fun .
What I'm getting at is , any of these Pros will get their medicine eventually . When MR MORRISON gets to a point in time in the future , some of his 'drop-in' victims children will be paying him his dues , now that would be great viewing .

https://www.mysurf.tv/exclusive/video/mick-fanning-breaks-down-winston-s…

thats pretty significant, shows the pros are now at least aware of sentiment shifting against them.

What a pity you don't have the surf ettieque of the the guy who shaped the single fin Eugene.

That wasn't an apology, more like sorry but not sorry, that's just the way it is.

It wont stop them though

Is 'sharks' a euphemism for 'cunts'?

Take the nice approach. If they drop in, wait for them to paddle back out and congratulate them on an awesome wave. Befriend them, follow them in, see which car they go back to and take note of the number plate. Next time you see that car in the car park let the air out of at least 2 tyres and leave a message with wax on the windscreen stating how much you appreciate them sharing YOUR wave . It may not stop them from dropping in but it'll delay 'em enough or get them thinking about it next time. A little bit of advice from your friendly neighbourhood pacifist. PS. I'd only do this after multiple dropins of course !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3481337/Australian-surfing-lege…

Good stuff put the heat on! Not just to Fanning though, all his mates too!

Cant wait to see how the mags defend Mick, which of course they will. Luke kennedy and Vaughan Blakey have got their tongues at the ready. The PR propaganda will hit the newstands soon.

Well wasn't much of an apology next swell and the 50 after will truly tell how remorseful these "Sharks" are. Speaking of Sharks these guys would have to be like a school shark the Beta-Male type of the shark world who hunt in packs justifying one and others piss poor behaviour. They are definitely no Great White.

Maintain the rage against poor behaviour in the surf.

Have to admit, Mick did make it sound like when the waves are good you can do what you want. That's a 2 way street .

they've fought to the top of the pack , their on their own stretch, everyone wants a piece of it and ya think their gunna give it up- yeh. let the dingo loose

tworules wrote:

they've fought to the top of the pack , their on their own stretch, everyone wants a piece of it and ya think their gunna give it up- yeh. let the dingo loose

By dropping in?? If they claim it's their own stretch well they can just stay there and not travel at all. Let the dingo loose? Why not let the Dingo follow the same rules as everyone else.

what like everyone else

groundswell wrote:

https://www.mysurf.tv/exclusive/video/mick-fanning-breaks-down-winston-s…

Re the shark comment...so the waves get good so I turn into a cunt...apologist bullshit.

No different to you made me angry/jealous/envious or whatever, so I punched you in the face...piss weak excuses from piss weak, hypocritical boys.

lamest apology ever, couldn't even wipe the smirk off his face

made bronwyn bishop look genuine, wanker

Wasnt that long ago i thought Mick was the messiah of the pro ranks,bringing a bit of class to a group of ego lovin wannabes but as Sypkan said above the smirk was your downfall ......someone as good as Mick shouldnt have to dropin,probably already has a 100 tubes that day.........lame.

smashed head/rear and indicators on all four corners every couple of weeks should wipe that smirk off

Dingo the boss mf the lighting parko the croatian...

Notice that gronk on the yellow board go over the falls sitting upright just as Fanning passed during that video ?

Jesus fucking Christ.

I now think I dislike them even more.
This is my solution when they come to your local burn them as much
as possible then smile and remind them of Winston.

My solution is go to the local pub, locate the biggest hardnut with Jail-Tattoos, provide a pink bodyboard ( one of thos sweet ones with the two fins underneath) & pay him $100 and a case of XXXX to follow whatever pro surfer you have an issue with and blatantly drop in on him and straight-hander on every single wave the desired surfer catches. I would then pay him an additional 50 and a 6 pack of Woodstock 12 %ers to sit on said pro's head in the carpark. I'd happily offer my services except I only weigh 65Kg and possess tiny little child-like stick legs. I do have a pink body board though so would not require supply of this item.

ah don't you love the smell of violence for Breakfast , and the threats of nameless people , showcasing their weakness's here on SN. When you read all the whinging and threats on this forum , no wonder the locals drop in , shit , reading all the negatives about the Cooly Kids , makes me want to drop in on all the bleaters , so I can only imagine how the locals see the blowins!!
FFS man up guys, stop talking about it and do something , whats that old saying, " if you can't back it up , shut the fuck up!"
Ah but that's what forums are , silly rhetorical question!

Sorry, Mick but you know and we know that was not an apology. Yeah, life may not be too good at the moment but honesty would help.

sharkman wrote:

ah don't you love the smell of violence for Breakfast , and the threats of nameless people , showcasing their weakness's here on SN. When you read all the whinging and threats on this forum , no wonder the locals drop in , shit , reading all the negatives about the Cooly Kids , makes me want to drop in on all the bleaters , so I can only imagine how the locals see the blowins!!

FFS man up guys, stop talking about it and do something , whats that old saying, " if you can't back it up , shut the fuck up!"

Ah but that's what forums are , silly rhetorical question!

They have nets and drumlines on the Gold Coast. What are YOU gonna do about it?

Yep, sharkman, your right. Put up or shut up. Some of us don't shut up but we still manage to have a bit of fun and banter. The benefit of age.

sharkman wrote:

ah don't you love the smell of violence for Breakfast , and the threats of nameless people , showcasing their weakness's here on SN. When you read all the whinging and threats on this forum , no wonder the locals drop in , shit , reading all the negatives about the Cooly Kids , makes me want to drop in on all the bleaters , so I can only imagine how the locals see the blowins!!

FFS man up guys, stop talking about it and do something , whats that old saying, " if you can't back it up , shut the fuck up!"

Ah but that's what forums are , silly rhetorical question!

The thing is theres plenty who could back it up these wankers probably pick their targets when dropping in. Such as a young teenager.

After reading this it's tempting to follow the pro wankers around and go left towards them if the drop in on someone. Might end in a court case though. More fun than competing for waves with manners.