Australia - you're standing in it

Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51 am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 08:06 pm new

VJ I agree totally with everything you linked above.
What hope have we got because no matter who votes for who or who is in government, what’s the difference these days.
Do you ever see a change? Old Shorty had some policies to shake it up but MSM went hard on squashing that. Status quo forever

sypkan Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 08:09 pm new

possibly with increasing interest rates too as a result of inflation...

(possibly definitely looking at the chatter above...)

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 08:16 pm new

You think they’re going to increase Syp? Not just .1 or so but keep going up.

adam12 Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 08:33 pm new

ashsam wrote:

Might knock it on the head now, eh?

2 questions for you.

1. You happy with people clogging up your website forums with YouTube links as answers with zero words, or used as having a go at other members? One after the other.
2. Why are you letting people use Cu_t word non stop, it shows up on front page, it’s not even socially accepted anymore.
I get people don’t agree or get on but.
You own the joint why don’t you clean it up?

Yo ashsam, yesterday I put a number of questions to you regarding your stupid posts criticising Shorten. They were reasonable questions.
You answered me with a youtube clip from Manfred Mann's Earth Band, zero words.
So here's another reasonable question.
Do you know what a hypocrite is?
If you have a problem with how Stu runs this site then:
a)shut the fuck up and start your own website
b)shut the fuck up and grow up
c)see a) and b) above

I don’t need to answer jack from you, grow up.

Yep, that's right, you don't.
But you then go whining like a baby to Stu about "1. You happy with people clogging up your website forums with YouTube links as answers with zero words, or used as having a go at other members? One after the other."
Who the fuck are you to go telling the site owners how they should run their site, or questioning them on how they run their site?
If you don't like it you can just do us all a favour and fuck off.
Or stop complaining like a little boy going running to mummy.
You contribute fuck all here but sniping and trolling as far as I can see.
Small man, small mind.

sypkan Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 08:52 pm new

I do

I believe we're in a bit of a runaway moment...

where there really isn't much government (or RBA) can do...

for a host of reasons:

we're well and truly in a two speed economy, have been for some time, turbo charged by covid - where some still have buckets to spend... others,well...

boomers are generally rolling in it

the dire outlook for the yooth, means no babies no houses, no hope - so fuck it... spend up anyway...

shipping already through the roof - only
increasing with various wars...

I believe there's still a lot of price increase to filter through from the
chinese peasant factory falling out of favour

and pumping in a million+++ bodies increases demand for everything - cars, food, doctors, basic services, doctors, houses...

the much needed catch up on houses puts pressure on all sorts of workers -from engineers right down to brickie
labourers... they literally cannot find people now - so...'we'll just import some more bodies...'

the energy transition is competing for same workers...

even more sober commentators say the government and RBA are working
against each other...

it's a perfect storm in the truest sense of the term

even before the government imported too many bodies...

now it's a perfect storm, with immigration the only answer, to too much immigration

it's now a perfect storm ECL cyclone combo set up, with an airborne dog swirling in the vortex, chasing it's tail...

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 08:54 pm new

Haha I’ll check the charts on your last point.
What the hell do you do?
None the less thanks and I’m trying to gather as much information from many sectors.
Hope you’re not too offended by c words like our Christian brothers. No offense. offense is taken not given etc.is that right? It’s your delivery not the subject and I’ll pull my head in from now on

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:01 pm new

adam12 wrote:

Might knock it on the head now, eh?

2 questions for you.

1. You happy with people clogging up your website forums with YouTube links as answers with zero words, or used as having a go at other members? One after the other.
2. Why are you letting people use Cu_t word non stop, it shows up on front page, it’s not even socially accepted anymore.
I get people don’t agree or get on but.
You own the joint why don’t you clean it up?

Yo ashsam, yesterday I put a number of questions to you regarding your stupid posts criticising Shorten. They were reasonable questions.
You answered me with a youtube clip from Manfred Mann's Earth Band, zero words.
So here's another reasonable question.
Do you know what a hypocrite is?
If you have a problem with how Stu runs this site then:
a)shut the fuck up and start your own website
b)shut the fuck up and grow up
c)see a) and b) above

I don’t need to answer jack from you, grow up.

Yep, that's right, you don't.
But you then go whining like a baby to Stu about "1. You happy with people clogging up your website forums with YouTube links as answers with zero words, or used as having a go at other members? One after the other."
Who the fuck are you to go telling the site owners how they should run their site, or questioning them on how they run their site?
If you don't like it you can just do us all a favour and fuck off.
Or stop complaining like a little boy going running to mummy.
You contribute fuck all here but sniping and trolling as far as I can see.
Small man, small mind.

Go away wanker, not interested.

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:04 pm new

seeds wrote:

Haha I’ll check the charts on your last point.

What the hell do you do?

None the less thanks and I’m trying to gather as much information from many sectors.

Hope you’re not too offended by c words like our Christian brothers. No offense. offense is taken not given etc.is that right? It’s your delivery not the subject and I’ll pull my head in from now on

Have some descency scum, you weren’t just saying it in general it was directed at me. Don’t back pedal and pull the Christian card.
Your boomer parents didn’t teach you well.

Jelly Flater Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:06 pm new

- zingaaaaaaaaaaa
....intermission ;)

Lighten up and thread cleanse yaself before u wreck yaself.
.....take it away soldier boy in a trashcan lol lolol

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:11 pm new

No I was apologizing to Sypkan. It’s not all about you. Knicka bokkers well twisted. Chokito!

basesix Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:12 pm new

interesting surfsite chat.
I see the c-word as a bit lazy and cringey, given there is a battle going on, on our shores, between the US 'asshole' and the Aus 'arsehole'. Bypassing an opportunity to fight the good 'arse' fight by going for an anachronism like the c-word just seems like a wasted opportunity. 'dickhead' has good visuals. 'wanker' is almost brotherly. quite enjoyed Guy's 'cockwomble'. the dismissiveness of Darryl Kerrigan's 'clown' is about as good as it gets though.
good Aussie thread.

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:21 pm new

basesix there is always an r!
cockwomble is great and a gentle c word to be used in Parliament or when meeting the King

sypkan Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:17 pm new

"What the hell do you do?"

pay down your debts, ...for when the music stops...

the government:

show some gawwdamn restraint!

not seeing any of that

labor are so fucking scared of being in power for the next recession... seems they'll do anything...

jumping at shadows

the wheels'll fall of eventually

whether that's public sentiment... or full blown melt up / melt down...

something's gonna give

unfortunately Jimmy charmers (who I quite like btw) is just priming the public for more of the same...

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:19 pm new

Is it his fault though?

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:22 pm new

seeds wrote:

No I was apologizing to Sypkan. It’s not all about you. Knicka bokkers well twisted. Chokito!

In the other thread tool

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:25 pm new

seeds WEDNESDAY, 5 JUN 2024 at 1:10PM
Fauci? Haha
Religion is well renowned for historically making it hard for people’s lives until they relent. That’s why you’re the weird cunt now. We know better these days while you’re still believing gobbledygook.

You wouldn’t say that face to face weasel

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:28 pm new

Ha you’re not the only one. You’re just the one I’ve not apologised to. I guess I’m off to Hades when I croak it.

Supafreak Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:31 pm new

Giggles ! Seriously ! What would Jesus do ? Turn the other cheek ? Forgive & forget ? Pray for others giggles and you will feel better .

Jelly Flater Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:35 pm new

....poor giggles the dumpster diver
- fair prey ay ;);)

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:39 pm new

Anyway in fairness, I apologise because it’s obvious you can’t take a bit o banter. No offense intended. The good book will set me straight!

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:40 pm new

Ooh I love a one inch man. Strangely I don’t get penis envy.

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:50 pm new

Supafreak wrote:

Giggles ! Seriously ! What would Jesus do ? Turn the other cheek ? Forgive & forget ? Pray for others giggles and you will feel better .

Supre go back to your tax payers pensioner hideaway.

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:56 pm new

Actually I just got a big pang of regret. Ashsam I do seriously apologise because you never know what someone is going through and I don’t want to be a part of any negativity in your life. You’re alright!! Just educate yourself on the A word(abbreviated version)

AlfredWallace Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:50 pm new

Ashsam. Hi. Did i call you a cockhead., well, you probably deserved it

I don’t go around threatening people like you remarked to me on two occasions.
Boasting of your 90kegs body weight and drop dead gorgeous, chiselled rig and I should be very worried if I was in your presence, what are gonna do , belt me, careful what you wish for.

I was in Byron at the time en route to Victoria , I was seriously considering meeting you in Coffs Harbour to have a little discussion about your ‘aborigines’ problem, you know the one, every opportunity you get you stick the boots in.

For someone who claims to be religious, I didn’t think that was your kind of fare to behave like that and treat people in that manner, but in reality it really highlights the gross hypocrisy of so many avenues of Religious based ideologies and thought processes. The so called love thy neighbour when you’re looking at them and when they’re gone, bag the fuck out of them, Two faced, what a life.

See, when I was recently way out in the outer galaxy looking for Heaven, which i easily found , couldn’t miss it, the queues went for light years as I stated, mostly sinners, there was an enormous amount of light emanating from one cloudy portion of the arena, near the pearly gates, I was bewildered, but at the time couldn’t make out what it was.

Recently, it all started to come together in my mind, it was the PROFANITIES SCOREBOARD , the latest in digital technology ,sponsored by the Catholic Church, Ultra Hi LED, some players, wow, they’d score minute after minute, totals rivalling great players of the past.like JF. A12, Seeeeds, some birdbrain AW, Blowin, Roadkill, the Sipster, Handy-Mack, SufferingRaw, all the while the game was being officiated and well moderated by the sublime and melancholic singer/songwriter Basesix, an interstate official whose passion for the game sees him travelling every other week to the interstellar regions of outa space at the home of Profanities, HEAVEN.

Grow up mate, if you don’t like it here, go elsewhere.
You’re an adult, make your own choices, ah, sorry, that’s right, someone upstairs guides you, sorry I forgot. A bit of fun. AW

Jelly Flater Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:52 pm new

^ haha yessssss gold AW ;)

Supafreak Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:54 pm new

ashsam wrote:

Giggles ! Seriously ! What would Jesus do ? Turn the other cheek ? Forgive & forget ? Pray for others giggles and you will feel better .


Supre go back to your tax payers pensioner hideaway.

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:58 pm new

seeds wrote:

Anyway in fairness, I apologise because it’s obvious you can’t take a bit o banter. No offense intended. The good book will set me straight!

Half arsed Apology with a swipe, eye for an eye in your case.

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:57 pm new

Look above ^^

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:01 pm new

Supafreak wrote:

Giggles ! Seriously ! What would Jesus do ? Turn the other cheek ? Forgive & forget ? Pray for others giggles and you will feel better .


Supre go back to your tax payers pensioner hideaway.

Supre be careful karma is not your friend. Finsahoy lol ;)

Supafreak Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:07 pm new

Just had a word with the big fella upstairs giggles and we forgive you , now be a good chap and move along .

adam12 Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:08 pm new

@AW, gold, wordsmith, I'm going to compliment you in a very Australian way, but so it won't pollute the header page,.................................................................................................................................................................................... ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... you're a funny cunt AW.

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:11 pm new

Supafreak wrote:

Just had a word with the big fella upstairs giggles and we forgive you , now be a good chap and move along .

Supre Move yourself along old fella, couldn’t help yourself hey had to have you say.

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:13 pm new

AlfredWallace wrote:

Ashsam. Hi. Did i call you a cockhead., well, you probably deserved it

I don’t go around threatening people like you remarked to me on two occasions.

Boasting of your 90kegs body weight and drop dead gorgeous, chiselled rig and I should be very worried if I was in your presence, what are gonna do , belt me, careful what you wish for.

I was in Byron at the time en route to Victoria , I was seriously considering meeting you in Coffs Harbour to have a little discussion about your ‘aborigines’ problem, you know the one, every opportunity you get you stick the boots in.

For someone who claims to be religious, I didn’t think that was your kind of fare to behave like that and treat people in that manner, but in reality it really highlights the gross hypocrisy of so many avenues of Religious based ideologies and thought processes. The so called love thy neighbour when you’re looking at them and when they’re gone, bag the fuck out of them, Two faced, what a life.

See, when I was recently way out in the outer galaxy looking for Heaven, which i easily found , couldn’t miss it, the queues went for light years as I stated, mostly sinners, there was an enormous amount of light emanating from one cloudy portion of the arena, near the pearly gates, I was bewildered, but at the time couldn’t make out what it was.

Recently, it all started to come together in my mind, it was the PROFANITIES SCOREBOARD , the latest in digital technology ,sponsored by the Catholic Church, Ultra Hi LED, some players, wow, they’d score minute after minute, totals rivalling great players of the past.like JF. A12, Seeeeds, some birdbrain AW, Blowin, Roadkill, the Sipster, Handy-Mack, SufferingRaw, all the while the game was being officiated and well moderated by the sublime and melancholic singer/songwriter Basesix, an interstate official whose passion for the game sees him travelling every other week to the interstellar regions of outa space at the home of Profanities, HEAVEN.

Grow up mate, if you don’t like it here, go elsewhere.

You’re an adult, make your own choices, ah, sorry, that’s right, someone upstairs guides you, sorry I forgot. A bit of fun. AW

Threatening lol you pussy, past your bed time old boy lol

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:14 pm new

You dozy carrot cake. Look above. I want to go to bed with a clean conscience

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:18 pm new

Haha meeting a random on the internet to talk about aborigines lol
Just look for the closest mission they will help you.

Jelly Flater Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:20 pm new
andy-mac Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:20 pm new

AlfredWallace wrote:

Ashsam. Hi. Did i call you a cockhead., well, you probably deserved it

I don’t go around threatening people like you remarked to me on two occasions.

Boasting of your 90kegs body weight and drop dead gorgeous, chiselled rig and I should be very worried if I was in your presence, what are gonna do , belt me, careful what you wish for.

I was in Byron at the time en route to Victoria , I was seriously considering meeting you in Coffs Harbour to have a little discussion about your ‘aborigines’ problem, you know the one, every opportunity you get you stick the boots in.

For someone who claims to be religious, I didn’t think that was your kind of fare to behave like that and treat people in that manner, but in reality it really highlights the gross hypocrisy of so many avenues of Religious based ideologies and thought processes. The so called love thy neighbour when you’re looking at them and when they’re gone, bag the fuck out of them, Two faced, what a life.

See, when I was recently way out in the outer galaxy looking for Heaven, which i easily found , couldn’t miss it, the queues went for light years as I stated, mostly sinners, there was an enormous amount of light emanating from one cloudy portion of the arena, near the pearly gates, I was bewildered, but at the time couldn’t make out what it was.

Recently, it all started to come together in my mind, it was the PROFANITIES SCOREBOARD , the latest in digital technology ,sponsored by the Catholic Church, Ultra Hi LED, some players, wow, they’d score minute after minute, totals rivalling great players of the past.like JF. A12, Seeeeds, some birdbrain AW, Blowin, Roadkill, the Sipster, Handy-Mack, SufferingRaw, all the while the game was being officiated and well moderated by the sublime and melancholic singer/songwriter Basesix, an interstate official whose passion for the game sees him travelling every other week to the interstellar regions of outa space at the home of Profanities, HEAVEN.

Grow up mate, if you don’t like it here, go elsewhere.

You’re an adult, make your own choices, ah, sorry, that’s right, someone upstairs guides you, sorry I forgot. A bit of fun. AW

Haha Gold AW...
Let's go english slang of bellend! Not too offensive, but gets the point across...?
Up the Maroons...!!!

Supafreak Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:21 pm new

Be afraid, be very very afraid its …..

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:21 pm new

Jeebus. This knuckle head is out.(me)
Some people hey?!

basesix Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:27 pm new

haha, astonishing, AW, I was just outside stargazing and came back in to that. I'll have what you're having.
(Full disclosure, I am into awarding 10s, largely for the posterity reasons that freeride stated, but at the end of the heat, if there are say, 3 x 10s, I'll confer with the other judges and retrospectively make them a 10.0, a 10.1 and a 10.2 based on awesomeness. The dream and press will come when someone gets a 20.2 heat. The profanities scoreboard only goes to 20, but we'll all genuflect to any who score higher..)

ashsam Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:27 pm new

Few cones will calm you down seeds

Jelly Flater Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:29 pm new
seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:31 pm new
mattlock Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:36 pm new

Ashsam! Should be called The Pot.

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:44 pm new

He’s a silly boy. Fair game now. No, im sticking to it.! I’m a positive radioactive Mr Burns from now on.

seeds Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:55 pm new

BTW he thinks missions still exist.
None the less , peace, love and mung beans.

adam12 Wednesday, 5 Jun 2024 at 10:55 pm new

Question without notice for @Sypkan,
Wanted to ask you this before but never got around to it
Do you think the country/economy would be in this perilous state, per capita recession looking like it's tipping into a full blown one, small businesses collapsing, hospitality industry (in Melbourne at least) collapsing, pubs and restaurants going broke all over, people unable to find or afford rentals, mortgage arrears increasing, and so on, do you think things would have been better in 2024 if Shorten had got in in 2016 and carried through on his policies of restricting exemptions on CG's and removing most of the negative gearing (and franking credits)?

sypkan Thursday, 6 Jun 2024 at 12:31 am new

well I can't imagine it would be any worse adam12...

shortens CG and NG changes would have certainly taken some much needed heat out of an already overheating market...

but tbh, labor seem more addicted to this'big australia' mindset than the LNP...

for a heap of reasons it would seem... a heap of reasons that totality defy logic from my perspective...

here's my take on what's really fucked things up

and just as a context primer... when
people on here get grumpy about talking about US politics, I think to
myself... have you really not noticed how we seem to follow almost in
lockstep with what they do? ...be it a coupla months or years later...

without getting too bogged down...

we've followed their neoliberal 'third way' bullshit model

we've followed their 'captured democracy' lobby group model

and more recent and relevant to your question...

2008 everything changes

bailouts, printing of money etc.

all crazily indulged in and exacerbated through covid...

but more important to your question, the brains that run the show totally misjudged post covid recoveries - ie. economists got it so so hopelessly wrong...

again...

the US went all ideologically nutty on renewables and the 'carer' sector - it seems believing needing even more (next level) stimulus to fight an perceived oncoming covid mass slowdown...

later, desperately and ironically mis-named, 'the inflation reduction act'

(re-named, when inflation set in... because they basically overcooked everything, because people came back with a vengeance post covid indulging
in everything they could with newly accumulated covid cash... 'revenge travel' is a fine example)

and we basically did what we do, ...followed in lockstep fearing a post covid crash too...

ie. went bunta investing in renewables and 'the carer economy'

totally overcooking it, as it seems we didn't really need all that rolled out 'carer economy' cash and positions...

remember, we couldn't even fill basic hospitality positions - with places literally running on half days / hours / shifts- because the public (and economy) came back with a vengeance...

the economists... (cunt of a 'science') ...got it so so wrong...

again...

so short answer...

couldn't really possibly be any worse could it?

however, we've seen so much change, so many bad decisions, so much literal madness, and so much crazy policy (decades) come to a peak fruition in
such a short time...

I doubt things would be greatly different

sypkan Thursday, 6 Jun 2024 at 12:53 am new

and another lockstep...

flood the economy (the place) with as many bodies as you can...

keep it on the down low

act like you're totally surprised what happened when the public catches on to what's going on

and then, in the absolute 11th hour... finally admit you have a problem and act like you are determined to do something about it...

ie. biden in the last 48 hours, signing trump style EO's - after denying the problem / denying the solution for 3 long years!!

labor seem to be on a very similar trajectory...

I believe their weak, pathetic, and totally disrespectful actions and responses will both be too little too late

1) because the denial / sleight of hand
from both dems and labor has been so blatant yet so unhanded the people feel beyond cheated

2) both dems and labor have done such
a level of damage to their respective societies and social cohesion generally, many will never forgive them

I won't

they've fucked it up big time

garyg1412 Thursday, 6 Jun 2024 at 08:10 am new

basesix wrote:

didn't this conversation happen already?

ashsam wrote:

"What’s not necessary is allowing people on here to call others/me

C heads. AW

Fers. SR

Cu..ts 10 times in 1 post. JF

Maybe change the forum name to Swellreddit."

stunet wrote:

"For calling someone a fucker, cock, or cunt?

You serious..?

I have mates that swear that much each conversation. Wouldn't bat an eyelid. Racist shit like what you wrote? Not tolerated, and that's the way it should be,

Swearing in convo is different than using it to abuse someone. You must mix in different circles than me then.

It is different, but when used verbally it's easy to make sense of the motivation: mateship, pisstaking, or abuse. Think, tone of voice, inflection, and other cues.

What isn't easy is making the same distinction in the written word. Many a time I've written something ironic and some people have interpreted literally. Add in the many personalities present in a forum board, their humour, intent, and persuasions, and moderation is a minefield.

Did such and such call you a fuckwit, or did he call you a 'fuckwit'?

I don't want to play detective over that shit.

One way to deal with the matter is to ban all swearing. It'd be effective. However, I'm not the 'swearing is a crutch for conversational cripples' kinda person. In fact, I'm a big fan of Roger Mellie.

So we let the standard profanities roll, besides they're just words, right? Offense is taken not given etc etc.

I don't give the same latitude to racism. Hope that clears it up."

We can't ban swearing. Maybe this training video would be good for the precious ones who don't know how to converse in the language of swearing.

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