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lucky-al said: Likewise, freeride76. Will call in next time I'm down your way.
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Oh shit yeah, I’ve been there a couple of times. Once on school camp and once as a adult 25 years younger than now.
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Opti said “Anyone who reads your past comments will easily see why you’re not worth engaging in conversation.”
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Where I live now is perfect…..but I’ve had better in the past.
Where in AUS would you live in you could take your pick?
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This guy has broken his back in 2 places plus other injuries but this horrific fall didn’t break his spirit, such a amaz
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Of course it was scripted and well rehearsed but brilliant and truthful and from a supporting YES voting Aboriginal woman.
Is your brain Jelly?
They simply want and need to be heard burleigh a simple request to have input into decisions that directly affect their lives . All in the hope that they along with the government of the day can improve their circumstances around health , education and housing. Please don’t assume that I know nothing of what they’re asking for . Plus they are asking for recognition which when finally given may just lift everyones spirits , well not everyone , spud will be pissed .
Question for you Burleigh , why are vegans so angry ?
Haha
“ Is your brain Jelly? “
- kind of like… ummm…
If you had a brain you’d be able to decide for yourself how to vote, and not just because others are doing so ;)
This is your stated reason Burliegh.
No, I’m voting no because my good friend who is a FNP is voting no along with majority of his FNP family and friends.
Pretty limited survey, I must say.
This is for u to mull over burley... seems u need some stimulation... but don't bust yr brain bud
Burleigh,
April 1982, storm surf at Burleigh, I’d guess the swell direction had quite a bit of east in it because it was breaking further down the line and away from the point, I’m not from there but I was working there for 4 months from Jan - April and the point pumped the whole time, so I was a regular out there, I loved the point!
This day was a Sunday, 6 feet, fairly solid, no-one but me out there as my mate kept getting washed back from trying to get out at the cove. And although it was a SE wind, the barrels were open which I relished in one after the other in clockwork rotation. Why am I saying this, ha! I’m not actually sure, oh yeah..sometimes one just has to make those steps and venture into a progressive environment. The voice recognition is progressive in the fact that it is a change for them, It places them onto a playing field which will empower them. They know how to deal with that, they are advocates of the strata levels adhering to the hierarchy system within their clan. I have utmost respect for that. It’s a good thing Burleigh. No is unkind Burleigh. YES is kind.
Indo note Mundine wont support the Voice because he thinks it wont do anything...read that again, its at complete odds with your own version of the future if it gets up.
Mundine is a rationalist he knows the system very well.
Also note Mundine wants to go far far further than treaties and date change including up to 80% of Australia being under Aboriginal control.
You have been had seriously.
Got a black magic woman
Got a black magic woman
I've got a black magic woman
Got me so blind, I can't see
That she's a black magic woman
She's trying to make a devil outta me
Don't turn your back on me, baby
Don't turn your back on me, baby
Yes, don't turn your back on me, baby
Stop messing 'round with your tricks
Don't turn your back on me, baby
You just might pick up my magic sticks
Got your spell on me, baby
You got your spell on me, baby
Yes, you got your spell on me, baby
Turning my heart into stone
I need you so bad, magic woman
I can't leave you alone
They? How many of “them” Supa? Is it really 80%? What if it’s 60% or 49%.
We have no idea. Absolutely none. Yet you share videos of 99.9% of white people marching the streets as your argument to show support.
Media keep stating that Polls keep plummeting for [YES]
Under the Microscope the Polls seem to have bottomed out.
Some groups are pulling the [YES] Vote back up...
It is possible the [NO] Camp Triple Flip are seeing [YES > NO] voters switch back > [Yes]
Seems like [NO] have gotta put socks in the Big Mouths of Big Heads before they lose ground.
STFU each time they open their mouths ...more shit oozes out...[No] voters vomit.
Check it out...(Note polls vary by dates & consistency but their is a hint of [YES] Comeback!
Otherwise...why would 100% non enrolled neutral tbb share such at this point of time.
Mostly coz tbb couldn't agree with Media's kickin' of [YES] camp...think they've earned a break.
Think we can at least run a count ...coz tbb reckons [Yes] have found a second wind! We'll see...
That's all this is...just a break in proceedings...can all go back to kicking the fuck outta [Yes]...Ok!
*Peak [NO]
Various Polls
28 Aug - 1st Sept (*53%) (Dutto Reffo-Drop) > 48% > 50% > 49% (Mundine Treaty) > 0%
Binary Poll
30th Aug -4th Sept (*61%) (Dutto Reffo-Drop) 59% > 57% (Mundine Treaty) > 0%
States *No (Peak)
21st Aug Tas *53%
30th Aug -4th Sept NSW *61% / Vic *55% / Qld *65%
6th-9th Sept NSW 56% / Vic 51% / Qld 61% + WA *61% / SA *59 / Tas 44%
{Poll Anomaly}
Note: Guardian State / Polls (Graph) Has a wider (6-10%) buffer.
Consider above one off 4% Point drops may not be enough to stop the slide.
These Graphs show a continual slide toward [NO]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2023_Australian_I…
Hard [NO] < @ > [YES]
Peak power flip (July-Aug)...now settles a little
[No] Is slowing to near it's Peak coz data is now slowly flowing back toward [YES]!
Parties
(Wiki) Polls end @ Dutto Brain Fart...
2wk old wiki Party Polls present the slide continuing...to peak [NO]
30 Aug -5th Sept [LNP] *87% Other *80% ALP *43% Green *29%
{Poll Anomaly}
Guardian Polls present newer data...reflecting Wiki Pop Vote
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2023/sep/14/indigenous-voice-…
Early Sept -Dutto kicks own goal % toward Yes
Other ( Down ) Greens ( Slight kick ) ALP (Kick)+ [LNP] (Kick)
Certainly seems as if approx (3%) [LNP] + [ALP] Walked away from Dutto's 2nd reffo
Age Groups
18-34yrs Biggest fall thru July (Levels out) Aug : [YES] is now Rising 3-5%
35-54yrs Biggest fall to July slowing thru Aug > (Dutto / Mundine Ice bergs)
55+ Biggest fall thru July slowing up thru Aug > (Dutto / Mundine Ice Bergs)
Green Ant Bully's sting in the tail...
Firstly : "Don't read into the Polls as much as manic bipolar tbb does...it's not healthy!"
"Dutto's own goal kick flipped young Libs into orbiting around the [YES] Camp!"
"Jacicinta's Foul mouth put her in the Sin Bin!"
"Mundine's 2nd own Goal for [NO] Shifts the Goal Posts closer!"
"Albo's brings on his $368b Subs for the Voice shootout!"
Still anyone's game!
tbb worked hard to make a game of it...
Runnin' outta yellow / red cards > just runnin' the clock down!
Recap :
If one pauses & leans to the left & squints > Data shows a slow-pause-slight bump toward Yes.
But if ya keep leaning to the right it keeps moving faster toward [NO]
Gives ya an idea of which way lazy commentators like leanin'!
tbb is calling it... King Loser / Comeback Special [YES] Oh! [YES] Please!
@burleigh , I’m starting work at 5.30 this morning and it’s a long day ahead so sorry I can’t come out and play today but I’m sure someone will entertain you . I’ve looked but I can’t find the videos of the yes campaign with 99.9% white folk . I did however post a video of some no supporters in Melbourne . Have a good day Burleigh and if ya don’t know vote no .
No body has been had, im against the voice getting up thats my view, Warren is against the voice getting up, thats his view, we agree on this issue and have a common goal on this issue.
I mean crazy enough on this issue i even share a common goal with Lidia Thorpe, even if the goal is for different reasons, ive even shared sovereign citizen's views here because i agree with them about their position on the Voice but totally disagree with their motivation and other views.
You know you can share views and goals with people and support those aspects but also disagree with other things they say, i mean as much as i love and agree with Jacinta im sure we dont agree on everything, actually even her calls on effect of colonialism i dont totally agree with totally, 100% its over focussed on and over stated, but i dont think you can totally say there is zero on going effects, if i was her advisor i would have had her word things much differently
BTW. Do you have evidence of this 80% claim?...
I have listened to many of Warrens views in podcast etc and never came across this, while i dont agree with him on treaty or Aus day, for the most part i do agree with most of his thoughts, like focus on education, employment and participation in economy to close the gap etc.
Ah @Indo loves Jacinta. How sweet...
You know what they say happens to your thinking when you fall in love ??
May explain things;)
Love as is in i love the things she has to say, i love she goes against the grain, i love that she is a strong driven women etc.
Kind of like how i love surfing, or love the ocean or love Indo.
Not love as in, i met my wife got to know her and we fell in love, or not as in i love my kids and would do anything for them.
Love comes in many shapes and forms.
People that trust the government after covid and that almighty shitstorm are the same people who think strippers are in love with them.
Ha ha its funny that you think because there is people at rallies that the Yes vote will get up.
I mean the polls favour the No camp, but they are still showing about 40% for Yes thats still a lot of people, but it still means its unlikely to get both ticks needed to get up, more than 50% Australia wide and majority of states.
Plus issues like this cause people to be passionate couple this with big money to get the word out and you get big numbers, those who are voting yes and passionate are also much more likely to be left leaning which has a culture for thing's like rallies and just virtue signaling in general.
I think there is going to be some No rallies but i dont expect they will have the same numbers, apart from being poorly advertised (only seen one post on social media), most just aren't into that type of thing, for instance i would never go to one, i find it gimmicky and kind of cringy, its unlikely to change anyones mind, i just dont see the point of these rallies or walks, id much rather people read the info needed.
BTW. look at the covid rallies they were huge and went on for weeks but look at the results from freedom parties, to me it was surprising even with people like Clive Palmer putting in huge money, i thought at the ballot box their presence would be much bigger or Dan would have no chance of getting reelected even with a piss weak opposition.
Basically protestor's in most cases are generally just vocal minorities.
I notice u dumbass boys are avoiding this one!!
;)
“ We have no idea. Absolutely none. “
& “ Love comes in many shapes and forms. “
Gold.
Winnie has started drinking early today.
Indo,
"BTW. Do you have evidence of this 80% claim?..."
Pretty sure he mention it on insiders 70% to 80% its been around for awhile.
I expect the No vote to get up but the whole thing is not going to age well including your comments IMHO.
80% hey!
Poor burley... poor sad dumbass burley...just can't get yr head around this can ya u dope... that picket fence is right up yr clacker
I read that Spectator article indo and well...what to say? Desperate idiocy maybe. Geez, Nancy Reagan, crack cocaine, hooked on gateway drugs?? in an article about an indigenous Voice, come on, you're better than that. As I said before bullshit is being thrown around by both sides and that article fits the category. Notice the words "....are said to have.." and "Or words to that effect" so the author, whoever it is, wasn't even there and hasn't even got the decency to get his facts right before writing an article. This is like the guy in burleighs post that got all emotional because he was told to shut up at a town meeting and turns out it was an old biddy telling him to stop hogging the microphone and give some else a turn.
This is a political fight brewed up by Dutton and all these fairy tales are the ammo and he is being backed by a bunch of white, city elite. Simple, that's the real story
Even you acknowledge that there are no details about laws in the Constitution and that nothing gets legislated unless passed by Parliament. At least Warren Mundine has the decency to stick to reasons against the Voice that are based on his ideas of what's needed without resorting to fabricated stories about details and demands
What papers have you published? I'm interested in having a look
Gotta wonder when your only newssource is instagram.
I bet you attended a yes23 rally on the weekend didnt you Southern.
What a surprise.
https://www.rebelnews.com/_walk_for_yes_rally_participants_called_out_a…
Instagram...rebel news.
Cant believe the lengths u go to to educate yourself.
Where do you suggest to look for fair and balanced reporting?
Yeew! Quality article from a quality source.
And you call yourself an independent thinker grasping at stuff like that.
The Sydney Morning Herald has been balanced in its coverage of the issue, publishing an equal number of opinion pieces by both yes and no campaigners.
I knew you would like it AndyM. Do you think it’s a fabricated story or you just writing it off because of the website it’s published on?
"He who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know".
Maybe instead of spending all day on SN using garbage sites to try to provide you points to win with, spend some time digging deeper, listening, get out of your postcode, away from your mate, the "proud bunjulung man" who most likely shares the same anti government biases you do (birds of a feather) and when you actually have something worthwhile to say, with substance, you might actually be taken seriously and listened to.
Right now youre a cross between pauline hanson and lowinfo. A laughable joke at best.
Someone on a terrorist watchlist ay worst.
I only provided the link to the article as, i was quoting and providing evidence of the hook comment, as i knew that the those involved in the voice have described the voice as the hook to get treaty etc
I dont like providing quotes without showing a source, so the link was only to show the source, nothing more, It could have been any article or video that i had shared to show the hook thing is a thing, but that was just what appeared in the google search, to be honest i didn't even read the article, now im kind of curious.
And don't anyone dare diss me for providing a link i haven't read, (again link was only to show the source) it not like im PM of Australia and admit to not having read all the pages (no matter what you want to call them) related to the thing ive committed in full the USFTH and running a referendum on the first stage off the USFTH.
Anyway, its really not about politics, its about doing whats right for the future of Australia and preserving the integrity of the most important document our country has, and preventing us from being set back 60 years by vindictive divisive activist.
Thats your view but i completely disagree.
I am glad you weren't tempted to use the right side of history line though, because the right side of history is whatever the public decides on the 14th October.
what are they suggesting the people attending the rally should do? they are there for a rally not to magically fix the homeless problem, what a ridiculous article
See my post @ TUESDAY, 19 SEP 2023 at 7:01AM it wasnt directed at you, but it deals with this exact thing/idea.
No voters and even Yes voters vote the way they do for a variety of reasons.
For example Jacinta price and Lidia Thorpe are both against the voice, both will vote No but the reasons for doing so are very different.
Its absolutely ridiculous to think just because someone is voting No they have to support some crazy Sovereign idea or even share Jacinta's or others ideas, No voters dont have to share either view, they can decided themselves why they are voting no.
Exactly Mike Oxhard. Using this tripe to support your stance is pretty poor judgment Burliegh
I dunno how anyone willingly gobbles up this obvious rage bait bullshit when the internet is full of this stuff, use your judgement people, 99% of published articles on the internet are for entertainment purposes at best, consume it like the fiction it is, but don't be fooled by it
ohhhh look the rebel news police are out in force today. Please tell me where the article hurt your feelings?
Never walked past a homeless person Burls? How many people have you taken in?
I wasn't marching with a sign pretending to care.
Oh c'mon...
It was an overreach to try and delegitimize a protest. You of all people should be on to that.
A dummy like u wouldn't understand them...
Anyway when ya gonna answer the question...too hard huh. Go back to my original post and pick out yr answer for why yr no... cos u havent given a good reason yet
did you expect the voice to parliament rally to magically solve homelessness? this is a gold medal display of mental gymnastics
A homeless FNP.