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Oh shit yeah, I’ve been there a couple of times. Once on school camp and once as a adult 25 years younger than now.
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Where I live now is perfect…..but I’ve had better in the past.
Where in AUS would you live in you could take your pick?
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Interesting watch Southern, crazy to see it in real life like that , the "camps" , US basketball culture on everyone, private security and racist policing , nobody with anything to do except run wild , all ages show
No improvement anytime soon by the looks of things either
Life is hard enough when you have waves to surf
Bloody oath MH. Long way to the nearest wave in any direction from there!
Finished it last night, it was actually quite good having the local guys insight is always valuable, fark the brah's this brahs that got a bit annoying though.
Sound was a bit shitty at times hard to hear the Aboriginal lad speak at times and could have done with more editing but still nice insight in a raw way.
It actually goes very well with Avi's report what Avi didn't cover the Spaniard did, but what the spaniard didnt cover Avi did, for instance Avi gave a much better insight into the younger crew the untouchable's and just the public's thoughts including many everyday older Aboriginal folk on the street, the Spaniard just a better insight into the reckless aspect and neighbourhood etc.
And IMHO there is still so many other aspects a proper full length docco could dive into, go talk to the elders and leaders of the communities and there is much more of a story on why these under age kids are running amok after dark (a whole story in itself)
In regard to embracing the USA wanna be gangster culture it was even more noticeable in Avi's voideos talking to the much younger kids.
That Spanian vid was nuts, he has a great skillset & strong empathy for the people he's with. Could relate to the out of control madness of the rolling street party and that sense of craziness and unpredictability with a background of not much to do - but in this case machetes are drawn readily and people get knocked out, not just a few punches. All the young people who came up to him in the vid were so happy to see him and were great telling their stories, they were going out and doing what you do when you are young... but it's got that out of control aspect magnified.
& also all the shopfronts with the rolla doors and metal mesh, saw that in the midwest 30 years ago, looked familiar. It's a nuts situation and I don't know how to fix it, what struck me was how well the young people spoke to him too, and his guides knew the town and were able to really show what it's like.
It's a very different experience if you are walking & drinking etc amongst the party vs if you have a business getting smashed or are brought in for work and walled into the motel compound, have seen both sides.
https://www.2gb.com/full-gangster-mode-anti-crime-crusader-robbed-while…
Yeah he does great vids VJ and he's also an inspiration to alot of young kids like these, and shows it's possible to turn your life around completely.
Which is a good thing.
He even does one in my old hood Dandenong, where if you look closely as he passes the markets, you can see some bogan in an Island t-shirt lining up a burka wearing muslim lady for a hip and shoulder ;-)
And yes @AlfredWallace, it only took the shittiest, slimiest stinkiest bit of bait to get the bottom dwellers to the surface and jabbering like absolute muppets...again. hehe. Geez, you'd think they'd just humbly accept their 'victory' and move on,....but nup....i guess they really are racist's after all that just wanna keep sinking the boot in.
Just saw the vid "hood" brought back memories, seen far far worse than that in the early 80"s such sheltered lives you all live eh.
Jacinta will sort it all out... joke.
I watched the vid with an open mind- he really does engage with the people well.
It's a shame to see how lifeless Alice is during the day and how volatile it is at night.
Some of the older crew seem really cool. I wish they could get these little ones into line or they'll be lost forever. On the same token, gosh it must be a struggle to live there, constantly having to fortify your property and with the very real threat of violence a constant as well.
Yeah agree completely Zen.
Thanks heaps to all who did check out the vid.
Appreciate the open mindedness of all who did....yep even you Indo!
Correct me if I’m wrong but the dead daylight period was Saturday arvo. Country town hours. It’s quite lively midweek. I wouldn’t doubt the issues at night as we spent them in a nice caravan park surrounded by razor wire topping the fencing.
Happy hour is it? lol
Ahh Ashsam. I get the distinct feeling you're projecting your own alcohol issues onto me with your repetitive and dull accusations.
I don't drink. Haven't for ages.
Not that i need to explain that to you.
Baiting and insulting you....well you asked for it.
And i really hope i annoy you and get under your skin. Your priveleged white skin that is.
And yep, i do write provocative stuff that leans on the extreme side of things. I do it for a very good reason, but not one that i'll share with you.
It's working just fine, and it can and will benefit indigenous people in the long run.
Anyway, until you have something better than putting your own drinking issues onto me, and can actually dive a little deeper into the conversation....and not the bottle, there's little point discussing anything of substance with you.
Guess you are on Sam Kerr’s side then and not the white copper lol?. Reverse racism that will do your head in.
What about a black fella calling another black fella a monkey, who you gonna blame there?? NRL.
Mate making judgements on Kerr before the courts have? Know the facts? I’ll wait. You’re a bit rank Asham.
Facts are she’s been charged, I don’t agree with it for the record, total BS.
Whataboutism doesn't change the issues in this country.
And yep...Rank indeed.
Same as he always was.
Haha so you agree with her reported racism because you don’t agree with her being charged? You seemed to have a problem with reverse racism a minute ago.
More money won’t help, Toyota can only make so many Land Cruisers a year.
Didn’t say I agreed with any of it, I asked BD the ? Get off the bongs.
Nah mate I’m pissed. You chugging on old Smokey with ya Land Cruiser more money etc comment. WTF
Makes no sense to me
Guess you haven’t been around long enough if you didn’t get that one seeds.
Ironically, considering this thread, I’m just watching Going Places With Ernie Dingo and his homecoming episode from his hometown which I’ve seen before. It’s one of the best as it’s the fully blackfella episode. On SBS on demand for those interested.
Ripper @seeds.
Will check it out.
Cheers.
https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/tv-series/going-places-with-ernie-dingo…
ps. Drover’s Wife on on NiTV at 10.30pm probably 9.30 QLD. Great historically themed movie by Rachel Perkins
Great movie that, on the streaming services too forget which one.
Indeed. Love Aussie stuff.
awesome @southern, I prefer his giggly insider glorification of street drama, to dramatic Avi outsider agonising. (I understand that Avi and Spanian both self-aggrandise, and that it's the world they are operating in.)
Love the stabby mens-business feller in the blue t-oh, that pushes Arrernte language and hunting together as something positive he can offer Spanian (27:10), what a legend. Eye-opening 'blue t-oh' reckons the smashed-teeth of brutal ritual gets you the women..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4945341/
i thought the Spaniards Alice springs episode was pretty good id give it a 8/10 (although there was a lot of fat that could have been cut) but i watched the Dandenong episode last night and thought it was pretty crap id give it a 3/10 and it reminded me why i normally dont bother watching his videos, basically just a walk through Dandenong listening to some other guy dribble shit looking for his 5 minutes of fame.
I watched a bit of the Alice one and even though they thought a lot of him I didn't really see him offering any wisdom or great ideas to the locals that would make their lives better as well the rest of the community who are suffering from bad choices.
Bad choices Opti?
You think they chose that?
Who made the bad choices?
Yeah i thought that was a unique insight too @basesix. Also something that stood out was how the majority of the indigenous crew were forthright in making sure Alice was called by its native name,and also not backwards in coming forward saying "its our country". You could sense the defiance in their voices.
@indo, good that u watched it. Yeah probably a soft spot having spent time there but fair points. I liked the boxing gym in doveton and what positives it has on the area.
Life is all about choice. If you want to fix places , send in good mentors who help create a vision for a persons future…not just people filming themselves.
Without a vision for your future you have chaos……confusion…hopelessness.
I had an old friend. ..He grew up under the worst conditions in a Latvian orphanage that you can possibly imagine. Incredible poverty and abuse.
He made a choice ….and become one of Russia's top physicists.
Give people a vision for what’s possible…..then they can make a choice.
Or not…..
Opti, with all due respect, this Spanian fella goes around the world and does the same thing.
He's simply documenting his travels and whatever flows from that is up to the viewer to interpret.
He sure aint there trying to fix anything. Nor does he pretend to.
You have to admit though, without his 'street credentials' this sort of unfiltered access would never be possible for people like you and me to be able to get a real perspective of some of what goes on in these places....well short of going there ourselves.
He affords everyone he comes across the respect all people deserve on first meeting, and he gets it back in spades. Which i find extremely heartening.
Don't shoot the messenger so to speak.
I agree with you about giving people a vision, hence why i am a strong advocate for things like the voice.(not just on a swellnet forum either).
Not that it matters now of course, as i'm constantly reminded.
Matters to me though.
So what are doing to make a difference? besides posting YouTube videos and making that tosser $$.
If you want to blame anyone re the voice blame Albo.
3% indigenous, 52% white Anglo’s, 45% immigrants. Pretty sure all the 52% Anglo’s didn’t vote no, you better start blaming the immigrants BD.
You have no idea lol.
Voice is dead anyway no politician will try that again.
i get the feeling old Spaniard can handle himself pretty well?
Doesn't seem the type of guy to get intimidated too easily
Colonel Opti,
'send in' ? go do it yourself..
proselytise even, if that's the extent of your usefulness.
plenny of whiteys doing proper good, not just spouting, I only know about the arts, like Peter Lowson, Steve Berry, Mal Webb, and fuckloads of indigenous leaders, volunteers and workers killing themselves to make a difference in hard-as circumstances while being hamstrung by bitchy bureaucratic city nothingness. I've worked with them. Sad as, the above clips, seeing storywall/ adelaide house/ todd mall/ public spaces looking so uninspiring and unloved, but good to know about it, cheers @southern & @indo.
https://www.musicoutback.com.au/
https://barklyarts.com.au/
you too, @assham, BD fuck your girlfriend back in the day or something?
(of course new immigrants voted No, well documented phenomenon: you get to the island, you want to keep your hard-earned advantage, block others, exercise your democratic powers for self. It was TOTALLY the last chance for your 52% to do a great thing, before the percentages change forever, irreversibly.)
There's a couple of people on here who think voting for self-interest is normal and expected. I would argue that Aussies have a strong culture of voting on behalf of those less advantaged.
Possibly that has changed of late. Sad fucking times if it has.
hahaha. I've been wondering the same @basesix!
Did spend a bit of time around Coffs, so the chances are high...although BD would never knowingly have done such a thing.
But yeah, bordering on creepy obsession....
Someone has to call you out on your woke BS
ha, @southern, watched an episode of dontbringyamankyshithere or border control or whatever the airport thing is.. and a very nice looking black woman from the US who was a 'submissive' called 'blue diamond', was trying to get to perth to meet a client called 'paul'...
now, I would think more highly of you than to suggest any...
(true story)
Blue diamond, Paul McDonald, any others lol
Lidia?
appreciate you putting it into words. why is his banter woke BS? I really dig @southern not being bleakly cynical, being pro-active and positive, celebrating things, surfers, wave posts, he's had some interesting run-ins, but is a solid-as part of this weird little community.
Digging into people for having a beer or bong problem, rather than helping them via being a good bloke is fukn weird. Not Aussie enough at all.. and @southern is a model citizen atm.. what's the beef? Just anti-wokeinessinessiness?
Interesting that you think standing up for others who's shoe's you've clearly never put yourself in, is considered anti woke.
I'll do you the courtesy of replying to your message from yesterday..if not to show you a different perspective, then to at least highlight the mud that resides between your two ears....
Ashsam, i get the impression you equate racism to labelling of skin colours? And that's to you what racism represents. You're a whitey! No you're a blacky! No, you're a bluey!
The question is, what does the labelling of someones colour really represent. A white person maliciously calling a black person by their colour is in my opinion, having a dig at their percieved lower form of humanity.
So when you call someone a white bastard. What does that mean? What is attached to that label? What historical judgements and stereotypes are attached to that. Is it belittling the history and culture, and percieved mental aptitude of the white race? Do modern western white people in general carry the trauma of having klan members driving them out of town, being driven off cliffs, having their kids stolen from them, being seen as lessers in society because some quarters consider them primitives, the other.
When someone racially vilifies a black person, what does that mean? What is attached to that? Do you understand what i'm getting at?
In my humble opinion, there is a world of difference in a black person using a racially loaded insult against a white person, because what's the substance of the insult? You're not insulting the trauma that your race has caused for that person. You're in essence, just throwing child like insults without meaning.
A white person insulting a black person for their race...is alot deeper, when you consider the recent trauma that is associated with white/black relations.
All of the above, is very simplistic. There are exceptions, there are flaws in that line of thinking, because life isn't as dualistic as that. Or black and white if you like.
But it's a fairly rough but in my opinion accurate representation of why there's no such thing as reverse racism, in general. (not in all circumstances, there are plenty of exceptions).
So when a black person calls another black person a name. Where's the trauma from one of superiority in society, to one held down under the colonial bootstraps of society, and one who's families before them have struggled under those same bootstraps.
Does that answer your question?
Your thoughts?
Even the brothers can’t agree.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/latrell-mitchell-trashes-anthony-mund…
aren't we whites disagreeing?
what do you mean? so, it is not tribal, it is ideological.
which, while a good thing, is not realty ; )
here's a fun game @southern and @ashsam,
what about if a man-of-whiteness says:
'I am with a woman-of-colour,
and would look for another woman-of-colour,
if I needed to find a new partner'.
..or if a woman-of-colour says:
'I am with a white-Australian, and if it went south,
would go hunting for another man-of-whiteness to hook up with'?
(or vice versa re gender)
Does that mean that they are not racist -
or that they are extremely racist?
haha. Very good @basesix. Clearly highlights my points above.
What if the man of whiteness identifies as a woman of colour though? Hmm.