indo-dreaming][quote=andy-mac wrote:

""

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Low info facts.
Low info fiction.
Keep spinning ya web lowinfo.
Good for a laugh at the end of the day ya numbskull.

I’m assuming from his posts that etarip is a graduate from the ADFA. Is educated in warfare and has experience that gives his words meaning.

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""

Like before the USA backed coup???

Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.

If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.

Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...

Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.

No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons and there is some muppet in power like Biden.

Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)

But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Jesus wept. Swimsuits and mini skirts in Iran in the late 70s and early 80s. Someone needs a refresher course in history and mathematics. Indo do yourself a favour and read All The Sha's Men. That will sort your history problems out.

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""

Like before the USA backed coup???

Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.

If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.

Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...

Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.

No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons and there is some muppet in power like Biden.

Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)

But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Jesus wept. Swimsuits and mini skirts in Iran in the late 70s and early 80s. Someone needs a refresher course in history and mathematics. Indo do yourself a favour and read All The Sha's Men. That will sort your history problems out.

garyg1412 wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""

Like before the USA backed coup???

Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.

If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.

Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...

Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.

No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons and there is some muppet in power like Biden.

Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)

But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Jesus wept. Swimsuits and mini skirts in Iran in the late 70s and early 80s. Someone needs a refresher course in history and mathematics. Indo do yourself a favour and read All The Sha's Men. That will sort your history problems out.

Daughter of Persia is another book to help understand Iran....

Dunno if abridged version is on YT?

seeds wrote:

Jeffy you are the Rainman.

Who’s on first?

I don't know......

Scrooge McDuck not happy with China.

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garyg1412 wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""

Like before the USA backed coup???

Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.

If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.

Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...

Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.

No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons and there is some muppet in power like Biden.

Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)

But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Jesus wept. Swimsuits and mini skirts in Iran in the late 70s and early 80s. Someone needs a refresher course in history and mathematics. Indo do yourself a favour and read All The Sha's Men. That will sort your history problems out.

I dont have a deep knowledge of Iran history as i do Israeli history, but i do know that the problem's are all based on the ideology of Islam and the Islamic republic of Iran, even many Iranians themselves say this and yes Iran was a progressive place before radical islamist took over, in 1979 (46 years ago) not in 1953 (72 years ago)
(My maths is normally bad, but was quite fine in this instance)

"Background and causes of the Iranian revolution"

"It's causes continue to be the subject of historical debate and are believed to have stemmed partly from a conservative backlash opposing the westernization and secularization efforts of the Western-backed Shah,[1] as well as from a more popular reaction to social injustice and other shortcomings of the ancien régime."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_and_causes_of_the_Iranian_revo….

Anyhow it's all irrelevant, the hard reality is for over 45 years Iran has had an oppressive Islamic theocracy that is the cancer of middle east, one who's goal is to destroy Israel and the Jewish people.

And this has and will backfire on them, their proxies are all falling, it could be attacked by USA & Israel, their economy is at rock bottom, and much of its people want to see its government fall.

BTW. This idea that you can read one book (one persons take) on anything is silly, to understand any topic like this you would need to read various books and gather a host of different view points.

Can’t be long before a drone takes him out .

A gentle reminder about the cause of today's situation:

US trade deficit:

US government debt relative to GDP:

Both are predominately caused by the abandonment of financial and monetary prudence and responsibility post GFC by the US Federal Reserve (central bank):

M0 money supply

M1 money supply

It's very simple. The US needs to return these and other indicators back to pre-GFC levels.

Ray Dalio's take:

Ray Dalio wrote:

The monetary/economic order is breaking down because there is too much existing debt, the rates of adding to it are too fast, and existing capital markets and economies are supported by this unsustainably large debt. The debt is unsustainable because the of the large imbalance between a) debtor-borrowers who owe too much debt and are taking on a too much debt because they are hooked on debt to finance their excesses (e.g., the United States) and b) lender-creditors (like China) who already hold too much of the debt and are hooked on selling their goods to the borrower-debtors (like the United States) to sustain their economies. There are big pressures for these imbalances to be corrected one way or another and doing so will change the monetary order in major ways. For example, it is obviously incongruous to have both large trade imbalances and large capital imbalances in a deglobalizing world in which the major players can't trust that the other major players won't cut them off from the items they need (which is an American worry) or pay them the money they are owed (which is a Chinese worry). This is a result of these parties being in a type of war in which self-sufficiency is of paramount importance. Anyone who has studied history knows that such risks under such circumstances have repeatedly led to the same sorts of problems we're seeing now. So, the old monetary/economic order in which countries like China manufacture inexpensively, sell to Americans, and acquire American debt assets, and Americans borrow money from countries like China to make those purchases and build up huge debt liabilities will have to change. These obviously unsustainable circumstances are made even more so by the fact that they have led to American manufacturing deteriorating, which both hollows out middle class jobs in the U.S. and requires America to import needed items from a country that it is increasingly seeing as an enemy. In an era of deglobalization, these big trade and capital imbalances, which reflect trade and capital interconnectedness, will have to shrink one way or another. Also, it should be obvious that the U.S. government debt level and the rate at which the government debt is being added to is unsustainable. (You can find my analysis of this in my new book How Countries Go Broke: The Big Cycle.) Clearly, the monetary order will have to change in big disruptive ways to reduce all these imbalances and excesses, and we are in the early part of the process of it changing. There are huge capital market implications to this that have huge economic implications, which I will delve into at another time.

southernraw][quote=indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

""

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Low info facts.

Low info fiction.

Keep spinning ya web lowinfo.

Good for a laugh at the end of the day ya numbskull.

You seem to still be friend's with your ex GF in Tel aviv, yet you seem totally ignorant to the fact that without the Iron dome and other protective system's she would quite literally be at risk of thousands of rockets, by not just Iran but Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and other groups like Palestinian Islamic Jihad all funded by Iran.

Instead you seemingly seem to side with those that are trying to kill her and other Israeli's and dont take the threat of Iran and its proxies seriously.

The reality is Iran will one day try to destroy Israel (directly and not just through proxies) and if not prevented it could one day be with a nuclear warhead, and even if the USA & Israel try to prevent this from happening and hit Iran in the near future, there is still a real chance that some Iran rockets Iran will fire in response will get through the defensive system.

If this happens other than military base's Tel Avi will be the target site, Im not saying this to troll or trigger you, it is a very realistic scenario that you could wake up one day even in the next year and read in the news that Tele avi has been hit and hundreds or even thousands are dead, and your gut is going to sink hoping that your X is not one of those people.

My advice, if you have had a falling out with her over a clash of views on this, get good with her and make peace now, just incase.

And yes i hope like hell that she stays safe and this never happens.

.

indo-dreaming][quote=southernraw wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

""

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Low info facts.

Low info fiction.

Keep spinning ya web lowinfo.

Good for a laugh at the end of the day ya numbskull.

You seem to still be friend's with your ex GF in Tel aviv, yet you seem totally ignorant to the fact that without the Iron dome and other protective system's she would quite literally be at risk of thousands of rockets. (by Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and other groups like Palestinian Islamic Jihad all funded by Iran)

Instead you seemingly seem to side with those that are trying to kill her and other Israeli's and dont take the threat of Iran and its proxies seriously.

The reality is Iran will one day try to destroy Israel (directly and not just through proxies) and if not prevented it could one day be with a nuclear warhead, and even if the USA & Israel try to prevent this from happening and hit Iran in the near future, there is still a real chance that some Iran rockets will get through the defensive system.

If this happens other than military base's Tel Avi will be the target site, Im not saying this to troll or trigger you, it is a very realistic scenario that you could wake up one day even in the next year and read in the news that Tele avi has been hit and hundreds or even thousands are dead, and your gut is going to sink hoping that your X is not one of those people.

My advice, if you have had a falling out with her over a clash of views on this, get good with her and make peace now, just incase.

And yes i hope like hell that she stays safe and this never happens.

.

Haha bringing the personal into it now.
'come into my cobweb'.
Don't worry lowinfo, everybody here knows you're the leading eggspurt on war.
Hows those toy soldiers in your bedroom going? House must be crawling with them now with so many 'fun' wars going on!!

Joke about it all your like, but there is real world out there, and your ex like millions of others are living in it

indo-dreaming][quote=garyg1412][quote=indo-dreaming][quote=andy-mac wrote:

""

I dont have a deep knowledge of Iran history as i do Israeli history,.

Bahahahaha. I'm dying here.
Gleaned from.....er.....podcasts? Never been there, never read a book about the place, but wikipedia, youtube and a bit of podcasting and ur the leading eggspurt!!
Fark me! hahahaha!!

Trump in charge of the global economy is like having Rolf Harris in charge the kindergarten system.
You get up at 5 am all your life to go to work and build a nest egg, then with one stroke of a pent the orange clown takes it away.
Looks like the boomers kids can forget about that inheritance.

@SR

Im not an expert but yes I listen to experts around this topic both from a military and political aspect and I try to take in as many different view points as possible, and yes not just short articles or short TV news stories, but yes long up to date in detail podcast or videos.

In regard to books, you wont be finding any info on the current news and situation in books, any books written on the subject will be one persons take on what happened after the events, or any book looking into the future trying to be predictive will likely become outdated before they even go to print as further news and info become's available.

Funny how the people who dominate online forums with the loudest voices and think they know it all are usually clueless idiots, quite often with mental problems. Not mentioning any names but.

wax24 wrote:

seeds wrote:

Jeffy you are the Rainman.

Who’s on first?

I don't know......

He’s on third.

old-dog wrote:

Funny how the people who dominate online forums with the loudest voices and think they know it all are usually clueless idiots, quite often with mental problems. Not mentioning any names but.

It's funny how those claiming other's are clueless idiots, never actually have any counter arguments or bring anything positive or informative to the conversation and just spend their time mocking, belittling, attacking and just being negative... day after day.

indo-dreaming wrote:

old-dog wrote:

Funny how the people who dominate online forums with the loudest voices and think they know it all are usually clueless idiots, quite often with mental problems. Not mentioning any names but.

It's funny how those claiming other's are clueless idiots, never actually have any counter arguments or bring anything positive or informative to the conversation and just spend their time mocking, belittling, attacking and just being negative... day after day.

You just made a very personal comment to SR in what can only be an attempt to glean a reaction. Now you cry about Old Dog’s comment.
Cites Wikipedia, tells others to do something he doesn’t do…read lots of books. Even belittles a helpful suggestion.
Fuck off you thin skinned little bitch. You know far less than you think you know. Keep posting though. We’d hate to forget how much of a dumb cunt you really are.

The most perfect example above^

seeds wrote:

wax24 wrote:

seeds wrote:

Jeffy you are the Rainman.

Who’s on first?

I don't know......

He’s on third.

What’s on second ?

soggydog wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

old-dog wrote:

Funny how the people who dominate online forums with the loudest voices and think they know it all are usually clueless idiots, quite often with mental problems. Not mentioning any names but.

It's funny how those claiming other's are clueless idiots, never actually have any counter arguments or bring anything positive or informative to the conversation and just spend their time mocking, belittling, attacking and just being negative... day after day.

You just made a very personal comment to SR in what can only be an attempt to glean a reaction. Now you cry about Old Dog’s comment.

Cites Wikipedia, tells others to do something he doesn’t do…read lots of books. Even belittles a helpful suggestion.

Fuck off you thin skinned little bitch. You know far less than you think you know. Keep posting though. We’d hate to forget how much of a dumb cunt you really are.

Classic eh Soggy. Funny thing is, last time i actually mentioned my ex over there was around about the time of Oct 7 2023. Low info though has mentioned her several times since. And seems to be up to date with how much contact i have with her. Fucken wizard!!

Donny fails to mention what else is down.

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southernraw wrote:

soggydog wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

old-dog wrote:

Funny how the people who dominate online forums with the loudest voices and think they know it all are usually clueless idiots, quite often with mental problems. Not mentioning any names but.

It's funny how those claiming other's are clueless idiots, never actually have any counter arguments or bring anything positive or informative to the conversation and just spend their time mocking, belittling, attacking and just being negative... day after day.

You just made a very personal comment to SR in what can only be an attempt to glean a reaction. Now you cry about Old Dog’s comment.

Cites Wikipedia, tells others to do something he doesn’t do…read lots of books. Even belittles a helpful suggestion.

Fuck off you thin skinned little bitch. You know far less than you think you know. Keep posting though. We’d hate to forget how much of a dumb cunt you really are.

Classic eh Soggy. Funny thing is, last time i actually mentioned my ex over there was around about the time of Oct 7 2023. Low info though has mentioned her several times since. And seems to be up to date with how much contact i have with her. Fucken wizard!!

When you did say you had an ex and worried she was at the Nova festival, to be honest i was hoping that you were going to share her ongoing experiences and her view points as at that time i didn't have any personal connections myself to any Israeli's and it's always great to get insights from people directly, so honestly it was disappointing that never happened. (only a tad at the start)

BTW. Im sure she was a stunner as there barely seems to be an unattractive women in Israel, so many have that middle east with other mix, and it doesn't hurt they can dress without restrictions.

Anyway better go do some work, have a good day SR.

Supafreak wrote:

Donny fails to mention what else is down. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIKTBDoBZnh/?igsh=d2dkcGp3OHFkbHNo

So without doing the maths (cos my maths sucks) that's about a 2 or 3 percent increase in the overall cost of living with all those factors in play including the decreases. That's gotta sting the average American citizen.

indo-dreaming wrote:

there barely seems to be an unattractive women in Israel, so many have that middle east with other mix, and it doesn't hurt they can dress without restrictions.

haha, reel 'em in @indo ; )
(a mulatto, Anba Suriel, a Mosque-Ido, my libido, yay!)

seeds wrote:

wax24 wrote:

seeds wrote:

Jeffy you are the Rainman.

Who’s on first?

I don't know......

He’s on third.

?????????
I may be a clueless idiot,
But I’m still a clueless idiot!

indo-dreaming wrote:

garyg1412 wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""

Like before the USA backed coup???

Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.

If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.

Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...

Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.

No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons and there is some muppet in power like Biden.

Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)

But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Jesus wept. Swimsuits and mini skirts in Iran in the late 70s and early 80s. Someone needs a refresher course in history and mathematics. Indo do yourself a favour and read All The Sha's Men. That will sort your history problems out.

I dont have a deep knowledge of Iran history as i do Israeli history, but i do know that the problem's are all based on the ideology of Islam and the Islamic republic of Iran, even many Iranians themselves say this and yes Iran was a progressive place before radical islamist took over, in 1979 (46 years ago) not in 1953 (72 years ago)

(My maths is normally bad, but was quite fine in this instance)

"Background and causes of the Iranian revolution"

"It's causes continue to be the subject of historical debate and are believed to have stemmed partly from a conservative backlash opposing the westernization and secularization efforts of the Western-backed Shah,[1] as well as from a more popular reaction to social injustice and other shortcomings of the ancien régime."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_and_causes_of_the_Iranian_revo….

Anyhow it's all irrelevant, the hard reality is for over 45 years Iran has had an oppressive Islamic theocracy that is the cancer of middle east, one who's goal is to destroy Israel and the Jewish people.

And this has and will backfire on them, their proxies are all falling, it could be attacked by USA & Israel, their economy is at rock bottom, and much of its people want to see its government fall.

BTW. This idea that you can read one book (one persons take) on anything is silly, to understand any topic like this you would need to read various books and gather a host of different view points.

From a bloke who says he doesn't read books?????

Confusion wrote:

seeds wrote:

wax24 wrote:

seeds wrote:

Jeffy you are the Rainman.

Who’s on first?

I don't know......

He’s on third.

?????????

I may be a clueless idiot,

But I’m still a clueless idiot!

old-dog wrote:

Funny how the people who dominate online forums with the loudest voices and think they know it all are usually clueless idiots, quite often with mental problems. Not mentioning any names but.

The wanton abuse is borderline but the maligning of mental health is seriously bad form.

Do better, mate.

basesix wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

there barely seems to be an unattractive women in Israel, so many have that middle east with other mix, and it doesn't hurt they can dress without restrictions.

haha, reel 'em in @indo ; )

(a mulatto, Anba Suriel, a Mosque-Ido, my libido, yay!)

This is how it's done!

indo-dreaming][quote=southernraw wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

""

One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons

BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.

Low info facts.

Low info fiction.

Keep spinning ya web lowinfo.

Good for a laugh at the end of the day ya numbskull.

You seem to still be friend's with your ex GF in Tel aviv, yet you seem totally ignorant to the fact that without the Iron dome and other protective system's she would quite literally be at risk of thousands of rockets, by not just Iran but Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and other groups like Palestinian Islamic Jihad all funded by Iran.

Instead you seemingly seem to side with those that are trying to kill her and other Israeli's and dont take the threat of Iran and its proxies seriously.

The reality is Iran will one day try to destroy Israel (directly and not just through proxies) and if not prevented it could one day be with a nuclear warhead, and even if the USA & Israel try to prevent this from happening and hit Iran in the near future, there is still a real chance that some Iran rockets Iran will fire in response will get through the defensive system.

If this happens other than military base's Tel Avi will be the target site, Im not saying this to troll or trigger you, it is a very realistic scenario that you could wake up one day even in the next year and read in the news that Tele avi has been hit and hundreds or even thousands are dead, and your gut is going to sink hoping that your X is not one of those people.

My advice, if you have had a falling out with her over a clash of views on this, get good with her and make peace now, just incase.

And yes i hope like hell that she stays safe and this never happens.

.

You really just buy into the Israeli/Bibi propaganda mate.

Iran had a deal with US over nuclear weapons which Trump broke.

Some reliable sources such as Jeffery Sachs have stated that Iran have been trying to normalise relations with the US for years, and even had a moderate PM again trying to do this recently.

Continually being attacked by the West and Israel only strengthen the hardliners as we are witnessing now.

Netanyahu has been banging the war drum for over 2 decades, you know the war criminal who is ok with his most moral army on earth targeting kids and aid workers.

What's the civilian death count now?

Yeah all Hamas supporters I know.

Now Trump has sent a list of demands threatening Iran.

A list that no sane country would accept. Where does that leave them?

If a war starts we know who is really responsible....

Anyway carry on with your one eyed supremist Israeli view on things.
They are the chosen ones right?
I read it in a book.

andy-mac wrote:

Netanyahu has been banging the war drum for over 2 decades, you know the war criminal who is ok with his most moral army on earth targeting kids and aid workers.

Don't forget over 200 journalists.

"" A User’s Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System""

Main stream article on paper that was posted here. Think by follo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/07/donald-trump-worl…

Hiccups wrote:

basesix wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

there barely seems to be an unattractive women in Israel, so many have that middle east with other mix, and it doesn't hurt they can dress without restrictions.

haha, reel 'em in @indo ; )

(a mulatto, Anba Suriel, a Mosque-Ido, my libido, yay!)

This is how it's done!

Look out the village idiot could possibly be tempting fate again at Dandy Markets this Saturday

#eugenics #onehandedinternetsites #theothermix #hot #dresswithoutrestriction

andy-mac wrote:

"" A User’s Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System""

Main stream article on paper that was posted here. Think by follo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/07/donald-trump-worl…

Yes, I shared the original paper that clearly explains what is being done. It was published back in Nov 24, indicating a clear plan behind these actions. Nothing that is being done is surprising. Trump is actually very consistent with his ideas. What's surprising is market's assumption that he won't do what he said he was going to do for that last 40 years.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/wall-street-trump-tar…

basesix wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

there barely seems to be an unattractive women in Israel, so many have that middle east with other mix, and it doesn't hurt they can dress without restrictions.

haha, reel 'em in @indo ; )

(a mulatto, Anba Suriel, a Mosque-Ido, my libido, yay!)

"that middle east with other mix"

'nuff said.

flollo wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

"" A User’s Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System""

Main stream article on paper that was posted here. Think by follo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/07/donald-trump-worl…

Yes, I shared the original paper that clearly explains what is being done. It was published back in Nov 24, indicating a clear plan behind these actions. Nothing that is being done is surprising. Trump is actually very consistent with his ideas. What's surprising is market's assumption that he won't do what he said he was going to do for that last 40 years.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/wall-street-trump-tar…

Swellnet crew streets ahead of mainstream media again.

I'm getting a new bumper sticker, 'Flollo Knows'

Fliplid wrote:

flollo wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

"" A User’s Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System""

Main stream article on paper that was posted here. Think by follo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/07/donald-trump-worl…

Yes, I shared the original paper that clearly explains what is being done. It was published back in Nov 24, indicating a clear plan behind these actions. Nothing that is being done is surprising. Trump is actually very consistent with his ideas. What's surprising is market's assumption that he won't do what he said he was going to do for that last 40 years.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/wall-street-trump-tar…

Swellnet crew streets ahead of mainstream media again.

I'm getting a new bumper sticker, 'Flollo Knows'

Do not think he will pull it off however.

And if he does Australia is farked economically, or we totally cut ties with USA and go with China.

Most countries will continue to trade amongst themselves. Trump won’t change much.

Look at Japan, China and Korea. All starting to talk… and Japan and China haven’t talked like they are now since forever.

Roadkill wrote:

Most countries will continue to trade amongst themselves. Trump won’t change much.

Look at Japan, China and Korea. All starting to talk… and Japan and China haven’t talked like they are now since forever.

I agree Roady.
What concerns me for Australia as highlighted in paper is that countries will be forced by the US not to trade with countries the USA doesn't approve of. Ie China which is our biggest trading partner.
Where does that leave Australia?

andy-mac, I've got nothing but a very basic understanding of what's going on, just an interested bystander taking it all in, but when one of the first things Miran says is

"There is a path by which these policies can be implemented without material adverse consequences, but it is narrow, and will require currency offset for tariffs and either gradualism or coordination with allies or the Federal Reserve on the dollar. Potential for unwelcome economic and market volatility is substantial, but there are steps the Administration can take to minimize it. "

It does seem that they have blown that idea out of the water.

Fliplid, that is the crucial part and most difficult part of this agenda. Trump and co support low interest rates and weak dollar to boost the exports and investment. But that is at odds with USD being world's reserve currency. The demand from abroad is just too big. Something will have to give. Not everyone in the US wants the USD to be world's reserve currency. But replacing it could take decades and nothing has that much liquidity. Not even close.

Yes, seems there is a great deal of calm well thought out policy needed but instead they're just going to bludgeon everyone into submission

Yaris Varoufakis gives his opinion on it all that I thought was interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=740&v=FisWeqvblvQ&source_ve_path=OTY3MTQ

Also, I am seeing some casual comments here that no one knows what will happen and what will work, let it play out etc... Let me make something clear, I am 100% certain about some things.

First, companies cannot just pass full tariff rate to the consumer. If there is a 50% tariff (literally overnight) you can't just pass 50% cost increase to the customer. No one would be buying your product. So you will have to increase a certain % and absorb the rest.

Second, when you do that you are doing it at the expense of your own margin. For example, Apple will be hit hard by tariffs. What do they do, sell iPhones for $4,000+? Of course not. So they will take a hit.

Thirdly, what happens when your profit margin drops? Earnings compared to share price blow out, resulting in lower share prices as P/Es won't hold. And more importantly, you will delay future capital investment as paybacks don't look attractive. Going back to Apple's example, their cash reserves are estimated at $166b USD. Why are they not investing that cash? Do you think they will invest more of it with tariffs? Policy's role is creation of favourable conditions for cash to be deployed. Tariffs are opposite of that. I am saying this as someone with direct experience in writing white papers for business investments, asking executives to invest millions into chosen projects. And I can tell you right now that most projects that don't meet desired payback periods get immediately rejected. Tariffs = lower margins = longer payback periods = lower business investment.

Fourth and final, if Trump is to succeed in bringing manufacturing investment into the US who exactly will do all these jobs? Unemployment is low at 4% meaning there are no available resources. I could somewhat understand this plan in conjunction with mass migration of resources into the country. But they're doing the opposite, kicking everyone out. I watched Dave Chappele's hilarious stand up clip saying 'I like Nikes but I don't want to make them' and 'Leave Chinese jobs in China, we don't want to do them'. Of course, this is comedy but it's true. There are no available resources in the country to implement Trump's goals.

flollo wrote:

Also, I am seeing some casual comments here that no one knows what will happen and what will work, let it play out etc... Let me make something clear, I am 100% certain about some things.

First, companies cannot just pass full tariff rate to the consumer. If there is a 50% tariff (literally overnight) you can't just pass 50% cost increase to the customer. No one would be buying your product. So you will have to increase a certain % and absorb the rest.

Second, when you do that you are doing it at the expense of your own margin. For example, Apple will be hit hard by tariffs. What do they do, sell iPhones for $4,000+? Of course not. So they will take a hit.

Thirdly, what happens when your profit margin drops? Earnings compared to share price blow out, resulting in lower share prices as P/Es won't hold. And more importantly, you will delay future capital investment as paybacks don't look attractive. Going back to Apple's example, their cash reserves are estimated at $166b USD. Why are they not investing that cash? Do you think they will invest more of it with tariffs? Policy's role is creation of favourable conditions for cash to be deployed. Tariffs are opposite of that. I am saying this as someone with direct experience in writing white papers for business investments, asking executives to invest millions into chosen projects. And I can tell you right now that most projects that don't meet desired payback periods get immediately rejected. Tariffs = lower margins = longer payback periods = lower business investment.

Fourth and final, if Trump is to succeed in bringing manufacturing investment into the US who exactly will do all these jobs? Unemployment is low at 4% meaning there are no available resources. I could somewhat understand this plan in conjunction with mass migration of resources into the country. But they're doing the opposite, kicking everyone out. I watched Dave Chappele's hilarious stand up clip saying 'I like Nikes but I don't want to make them' and 'Leave Chinese jobs in China, we don't want to do them'. Of course, this is comedy but it's true. There are no available resources in the country to implement Trump's goals.

Well articulated, thanks follo....

Great post flollo, thanks.

indo-dreaming wrote:

@SR

Im not an expert but yes I listen to experts around this topic both from a military and political aspect and I try to take in as many different view points as possible, and yes not just short articles or short TV news stories, but yes long up to date in detail podcast or videos.

In regard to books, you wont be finding any info on the current news and situation in books, any books written on the subject will be one persons take on what happened after the events, or any book looking into the future trying to be predictive will likely become outdated before they even go to print as further news and info become's available.

You can read historical books Indo. From both sides to get a balanced view if you want. They tend to research and explain the how, what where and when - that has resulted in the now.

Furthermore, Ursula Von Der Leyen came out offering Trump zero for zero tariff deal with the EU. Vietnam is doing the same as are several other countries. In a way, Trump already won on several fronts. He would be an absolute fool not to take these deals. But we know he won’t take them as he’s an idiot.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/07/von-der-leyen-offers-trum…